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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies Reply with quote

Tried to do a search on Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies but of course the search engine is a bag o'shite

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=27832

380 hours per 20 week semester (about 19 hours a week). 1,930,000 a month, over time 29,000. Teaching business men/govt workers/uni students.

Teaching from both (so split shift)...

1. Daytime course
- TIME : 9:30 a.m. ~ 4:20 p.m. (one or two-hour period, Monday ~Friday)
- SUBJECTS : Practical English, Audio & Video, Discussion, Public Speaking,
Listening, Learning to Speak, TOEIC, TOEFL,
Reading & Writing
- STUDENTS : government employees, university students, business people

2. Nighttime course
- TIME : 6:40 p.m. ~ 9:20 p.m. (two, 1.5hrs. period, Monday ~ Friday)
- SUBJECTS : Audio & Video, Practical English, Discussion, Business English,
Reading & Writing, Listening
- STUDENTS : government employees, university students, business people.

What are you guys thinking?
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking, there are several departments in which native English speakers teach English at Hankuk University of Foriegn Studies.

And each of these deparments offer a different salary, housing benefits, contact hours per week and vacation time.

Which department are you looking at.

I know those working in the English Education Dept. are making over 4 million won a month, with overtime.

Still, it's a school to avoid for a number of reasons - caps on contract renewals, forced summer / winter camps, late Friday and Saturday classes, etc.

A bum uni job.

Which department your interested in?
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies Reply with quote

semphoon wrote:
Tried to do a search on Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies but of course the search engine is a bag o'*beep*



There is a way to have Google search this site for you. Just enter this:
"Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies" site:http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/

into Google and it will search this site for "Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies"

You might want to try doing a Google search with "HUFS" also.

Cheers.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies Reply with quote

semphoon wrote:
What are you guys thinking?

[Mod Edit] hours and [Mod Edit] pay for something that's not even a uni job? Pffft.
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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a shame.
It seems like HUFS would be a great place for serious teachers who really want to teach real English...
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justin moffatt



Joined: 29 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't even consider it. Based on the information you provided, it is the Foreign Language Institute. HUGE TURNOVER! Look at Dave's job postings. The co-ordinator is a certifiable crackpot.
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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a good friend at the institute there.

Director: crackpot, but avoidable (usually)
Conditions: big step up from a hagwon, not as good as many uni postings on here though (in other words, if you have a masters search elsewhere)
Better than a public school: a qualified maybe (depends on where you are)
Housing: Decent sized apartment/two rooms on campus.
Neighborhood: ugly, but near costco and not far to downtown Seoul
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justin moffatt



Joined: 29 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction makemischief:

Director: Useless. Doesn't want to deal with foreigners (as indicated by his Korean colleagues). Refers you back to the co-ordinator.

Co-ordinator: Certifiable crackpot. Unavoidable? Perhaps, if you continuously kiss her as** daily (as many instructors disgustingly do there).

Conditions: Better than a hogwan? Perhaps if you are working 50 hours plus weekly, with ADD kids with Tourettes Syndrome in some extremely rural area for under 2 mil. HUFS: 20 hours plus including substantial prep time and ridiculos split shifts. Not to mention, get low evals, and you are out mid contract! (Just look every 3 months on Daves for postings)

Better than a Public School: Maybe the holidays, but many previous instructors I know from there are MUCH MUCH happier at their respective public schools.

Housing: University is making money off the instructors by charging additional fees up to 200,000won plus monthly for accomodation. Not to mention the security who are paid to spy and report back to adminstratiion. (Housing is ON CAMPUS).

Neighborhood: Dump. Good sushi restaurant and cheap food though. Extremely loud with little privacy. Who wants to see their students on their days off anyways? Costco is not THAT close. Geez . . . .

Anyways, hopefully this will clarify the bombardment of PMS I have received over the years. Seriously consider public school gigs over this one. Nuff said . .
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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm.

save for confusing director and co-director this is pretty much what i said, albeit with more emphatic adjectives.

i sure as hell don't think i come across as endorsing the place. egads. Very Happy

i suppose others there have more dreary middling, but perhaps less entirely gob-stoppingly dreadful, impressions

anyways, as noted- if you've a masters- look elsewhere.
if not, and you want to be in seoul at a *cough* "uni" (if for longer vacations only) and don't have connections- your choices are but a handful- and HUFS is one of those fingers- perhaps the middle one?
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angelgirl



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: HUFS Reply with quote

Don't be confused.

Last edited by angelgirl on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
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blondieLass



Joined: 30 Apr 2007
Location: Yongin, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone happens to take a job at the HUFS Mohyeon, Yongin campus then give me a shout - I'm in Mohyeon-Myeon and I've seen about 2 foreigners in my area since I got here including visits up the the HUFS canteen for cheap Don-Cassu
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies Reply with quote

Very handy. Thanks.

R. S. Refugee wrote:
semphoon wrote:
Tried to do a search on Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies but of course the search engine is a bag o'*beep*



There is a way to have Google search this site for you. Just enter this:
"Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies" site:http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/

into Google and it will search this site for "Hankuk University Of Foreign Studies"

You might want to try doing a Google search with "HUFS" also.

Cheers.
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Paul_Zerzan



Joined: 26 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's the hunt for a literature professorship going Trevor?
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: HUFS Reply with quote

angelgirl wrote:
Don't be confused.

HUFS has several uses for English speakers.

College of English
Department of English Education
Grad School of Education
Institute


And....Department of English Interpretation and Translation.

I've interviewed for a few positions in different departments at this school and pretty much walked out of the interviews.

The schedules are HORRIBLE!

Also, 4 months vacation is reduced to 2 months because of the compulsory summwer and winter classes.

Foreign profs don't even get their own office space like the local teachers - they are put into a single room where they can prepare.

Housing for this school is sketchy also.
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angelgirl



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: English Reply with quote

bump

Last edited by angelgirl on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 pm; edited 1 time in total
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