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Why so much strong halitosis (bad breath) in Korea?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no prize for any of these answers -

it's the lousy toothpaste here - all the brands - and I mean ALL of them - suck big time - they are worthless tubes of crappy chalky substance.

Ks brush like mad all the time - so really - do you believe it's the food?

also they don't drink much water - which is so important for so many reasons - your mouth being one of them -

there was a good toothpaste Clarin that was sold for some time in specialty areas but I can't find it any more - don't know what happened to it

anyway, I'm using the arm and hammer brand now - not great but again, anything's better than the local K brands -
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it's the kimchi, pretty stinky stuff. i hate the smell of the subway cars on a friday/saturday night -- soju and kimchi, mixed together

as for koreans thinking we smell, yes they do. my co-teacher told me americans smell like butter because they eat it at every meal. i'm not american, but i have to admit i was pretty offended.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
i think it's the kimchi, pretty stinky stuff. i hate the smell of the subway cars on a friday/saturday night -- soju and kimchi, mixed together

as for koreans thinking we smell, yes they do. my co-teacher told me americans smell like butter because they eat it at every meal. i'm not american, but i have to admit i was pretty offended.


Well, does your co-teacher speak for all Koreans? No. Still, I'm willing to bet most people the world over would prefer to smell butter rather than kimchi.

Wink

Anyway, reminds me of this time I went out to lunch and two Korean teachers ordered food (kimchi stew and raymyon noodles) and ate it in my classroom. When I came back the classroom was still reeking of food. So, a group of students come in for class, and one of them yells in Korean that it smells like foreigner sweat!

Um...no children; it's the Korean food smelling up the room, but thanks for telling me how you really feel!
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Papa Smurf



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't say i've noticed. who are you hanging around with???

my coworkers brush obsessively. like 3 or 4 times during working hours.
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aerialsimulacrum



Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: Space is the place

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brushing and not flossing basically means you are swishing around nasty bacterial glop in your mouth, all while the brush opens up tons of little cuts in your (inflamed) gums.

It's also really disgusting to carry around one's toothbrush in those little cases right instead of disinfecting and drying them in the open air after every use.

http://checkered-vans.com/scenelulz/macros/gingivitis.jpg
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santafly



Joined: 20 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their stomachs are rotting - same reason stomach cancer is the most common cancer and the no.2 cause of death, what is the no.1 cause of death in Korea? Lung cancer.

I think the main reason that the guys stink is probably the drinking/work culture - I teach adults and I have to lean away a lot of the time - and I'm definitely not one to complain about people smelling after spending the past 7 years living/working in the outdoors.

Koreans say foreigners smell bad. I say Seoul smells like $hit! This is the worst smelling place I have ever been to - never encountered anything like it in many 3rd world countries - It smells worse here than parts of Kathmandu that have open sewers.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ernie wrote:
the bad breath that i notice is definitely not garlic or smoker's breath. i think it has more to do with people often skipping breakfast here because my co-workers are surprised that i eat breakfast every morning. i can tell if someone is hungry if their breath smells bad. it doesn't matter how many times you brush your teeth because the smell comes from your stomach!


bingo... ernie is right..

bad breath is not from food! that would be garlic breath or food breath
BAD breath or heated breathed is from the stomach, or someone didnt brush their teeth..
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NoExplode



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some wstrange statements in this thread...corrections:

-Koreans always brush all the time. Wackily so.

-Koreans are always flossing.

-Not eating doesn't give you bad breath.
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
no prize for any of these answers -

it's the lousy toothpaste here - all the brands - and I mean ALL of them - suck big time - they are worthless tubes of crappy chalky substance.

Ks brush like mad all the time - so really - do you believe it's the food?

also they don't drink much water - which is so important for so many reasons - your mouth being one of them -

there was a good toothpaste Clarin that was sold for some time in specialty areas but I can't find it any more - don't know what happened to it

anyway, I'm using the arm and hammer brand now - not great but again, anything's better than the local K brands -
Have you tried Median? It's got the same active ingredient as Colgate Total. I bought mine at a LotteMart.
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mogbert



Joined: 10 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoExplode wrote:
Some wstrange statements in this thread...corrections:

-Koreans always brush all the time. Wackily so.

-Koreans are always flossing.

-Not eating doesn't give you bad breath.


corrections:

koreans don't even know what floss is.

not eating food DOES give you bad breath.
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offtheoche



Joined: 21 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was sitting on a bus a few days ago and the smell on the breath of the person sitting behind me was unbearable. I find a lot of Koreans to be generally quite smelly/dirty. Some of my students told me that they only shower once/twice a week. Shocked
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005
Location: In Sangbong, dodging the homeless guys outside Costco

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the comments here are bordering on racist. Kind of reminds me of being in the UK during the 80's when Indians/Pakistanis were getting this kind of treatment.
To be fair, the food here is very pungent so it can make breath a bit smelly. When it comes to body odour, I rarely ever detect it on Koreans but I have noticed a few smelly foreigners here.
I've heard that BO can be correlated to dairy products, so that might be a factor.
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Bread



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they sell Crest Whitestrips in Korea?
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad idea is to carry around some gum or mints or halls and casually offer one to the next foul mouth you encounter.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: Alee

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From http://www.qualitydentistry.com/dental/halitosis/summary.html

Quote:
What causes a halitosis condition?


There are a number of possible causes of halitosis. Below we have listed some possible causes and have separated them into medical and dental causes.

Medical

1. Sinus infections & abnormal sinus anatomies
2. Tonsilar infections or tonsiloliths
3. Lung diseases
4. Kidney diseases
5. Liver diseases
6. Blood disorders
7. Diabetes
8. Gallbladder dysfunction
9. Menstruation
10. Carcinomas
11. Certain foods

Dental


1. Extensive dental decay
2. Periodontal (gum) disease
3. Oral infections or abscesses
4. Oral cancers
5. Xerostomia (dry mouth condition). Many medications can contribute to a condition of xerostomia.
6. Oral conditions resulting from post-nasal drips or discharges
7. Allergy conditions
8. A proliferation of specific types of gram negative anaerobic bacteria.

90% of breath problems are caused from a proliferation of specific types of gram negative anaerobic bacteria in the mouth. This has also been supported by extensive research in the field of halitosis. This proliferation is often a result of conditions such as allergies, sinus congestion or post-nasal drips, nasal polyps, and xerostomia which is a dry mouth condition. A common area where the bacteria congregates can actually be on the tongue itself. Because we rarely find halitosis resulting from a medical condition, we suggest that the first approach in eliminating the problem should be an oral approach. This approach is more economical, noninvasive, and it has a higher probability of success. We do recommend that all patients maintain their dental health by seeing their dentist regularly. Should a halitosis condition persist, despite the simple and noninvasive oral treatments that we offer, then we suggest that those patients should see their physician. Usually from the differential diagnosis that we perform at the first appointment, we can determine whether a halitosis problem is of a medical or dental origin.


I'd say the environment here has a lot to do with it. Extremely humid summers, very dry winters, lots of dust = congestion = lots of chances for anaerobic bacteria to build up.
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