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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: E2 and F2 questions Reply with quote

My fiancee (a Korean citizen) and I (US citizen) are getting married later this year. We will be living for a year or two in Korea before settling down in the states.

Unless I'm able to get a programming job somewhere, I'll be teaching. So I am in the midst of doing my research, and I have a few questions about visas:

1) Supposedly teaching privates with an E2 visa is illegal. I have seen nothing to the contrary, but my fiancee insists it's legal. Is there some place official I can find on the internet that states this restriction?

2) Shortly after the wedding I will be applying for residency - an F2 visa. Once I obtain it will I be free to teach privates?
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Joo Rip Gwa Lee



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privates are illegal with an E-2 Visa

They are also illegal with and F-2 visa.


You can only do them if you have an F-4 visa. Only those who are ethnic Koreans can get an F-4 visa.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:02 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Yes Korea has some very strange and blatant racist laws. They think foreigners have ot so easy, but look at all the very unwelcoming restrictions non-Koreans face in Korea?
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Stunted Wookie



Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 3:57 pm    Post subject: work Reply with quote

You want F2-1 visa.

Have your wife enroll at the local education department as an English tutor. She can set up teaching out of your home...you can 'help' ...volunteering to help your spouse is not illegal!

Laughing
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Lee wrote:
Privates are illegal with an E-2 Visa

They are also illegal with and F-2 visa.


You can only do them if you have an F-4 visa. Only those who are ethnic Koreans can get an F-4 visa.


Ouch.

I would have thought being a perm resident would take care of that - guess not.

I will probably not risk doing privates at all then. I can't risk deportation.
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Singer



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 10:00 pm    Post subject: e-2 f-2 visa Reply with quote

You should also know that by getting an F-2 visa means nothing in terms of teaching. You have an F-2, but you still need the E-2 to teach at a hogwon or university. So in the end, you have 2 visas. An E-2 is pretty useless unless you want to do something other than teach.
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Singer



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 10:01 pm    Post subject: E-2 F-2 Reply with quote

[quote]An E-2 is pretty useless unless you want to do something other than teach.[/quote

Sorry, I meant to say an F-2 is pretty useless....
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right right...

but

you won't get deported if you sport the lucky f2. a buddy of mine has been busted 3 times. had to pay a mil. won fine. ouch! with the E2, however, it's nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, goooodbyyyeee!!
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grrrr . . . .

I don't know how many times this has come up.

The law has CHANGED!!! It IS legal to teach privates; however, you MUST have permission from your employer (pref. in your contract itself), and you MUST report this income AND pay taxes on it. (which defeats the purpose for most people).

The people you are teaching to also have to report it in some fashion, if I am not mistaken.

Whew! (No anger at the OP)

Regards,

G.
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gajackson1,

one big problem with your post...he's not asking about teaching privates while working at a hogwon, he's asking about teaching only privates, therefore he will not be employed, therefore he can't ask his boss for permission, therefore it is not legal...

you can't teach privates legally on an F2 (we're talking strictly privates...and believe me, THAT subject has been hashed out time and time again!!)
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
Gajackson1,

one big problem with your post...he's not asking about teaching privates while working at a hogwon, he's asking about teaching only privates, therefore he will not be employed, therefore he can't ask his boss for permission, therefore it is not legal...


Actually I am talking about teaching privates while teaching at a hogwon... Sorry, I guess my original post wasn't too clear.

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The law has CHANGED!!! It IS legal to teach privates; however, you MUST have permission from your employer (pref. in your contract itself), and you MUST report this income AND pay taxes on it. (which defeats the purpose for most people).


So I need permission from my Hogwon owner then? I take it a lot of employers might have a problem with that.
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: work Reply with quote

Stunted Wookie wrote:
You want F2-1 visa.

Have your wife enroll at the local education department as an English tutor. She can set up teaching out of your home...you can 'help' ...volunteering to help your spouse is not illegal!

Laughing


Actually she has proposed this plan to me a few times...
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mack the knife



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

syclick,

if you continue working at a hogwon after marriage, you're losing the battle!!

at this point, you should be looking for a uni job at the very least...your marriage will cause you enough stress without all the extra crap a hogwon puts on you!
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
if you continue working at a hogwon after marriage, you're losing the battle!!

at this point, you should be looking for a uni job at the very least...your marriage will cause you enough stress without all the extra crap a hogwon puts on you!


ROFL Laughing

We aren't married yet! But I get your point...

However, my credentials are probably a bit on the low side, I dunno that I could get a decent uni job yet.
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