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carbs109
Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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 Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: Drug testing in Korea |
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| I haven't been able to find any definitive answers on this....is there a cannabinoid portion to the drug test in Korea or is it just a TBPE drug test (which detects stimulants)? I'd appreciate if anyone could give me a current report on what the drug test in Korea now encompasses as I know it has changed over time. |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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haha druggie
I tell you these posts come up at least two to three times a month
no, you can't do any drugs and come here |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: Re: Drug testing in Korea |
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| carbs109 wrote: |
| I haven't been able to find any definitive answers on this....is there a cannabinoid portion to the drug test in Korea or is it just a TBPE drug test (which detects stimulants)? I'd appreciate if anyone could give me a current report on what the drug test in Korea now encompasses as I know it has changed over time. |
Cannabinoids ARE tested for. It was brought back in late last year.
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Stay off the 420 if you wish to teach abroad....thats seems like easy enough common sense...then again 420 is known to slow the mind. 
In all seriousness, Tom gave you your answer OP. Best of luck.  |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Stay off the 420 if you wish to teach abroad....thats seems like easy enough common sense...then again 420 is known to slow the mind.
In all seriousness, Tom gave you your answer OP. Best of luck. |
That's not true.
OP, detox before you come. They'll probably test you for it.
Although, not all med centers will.
Tom is usually one of the most informed here, so I'd give
his reply some thought. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| If you're weighing the pros and cons of cannaboid testing and the amount of time you'd need to detox your system of a drug that gets you deported instantly, maybe you shouldn't be teaching children. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Drug testing in Korea |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| carbs109 wrote: |
| I haven't been able to find any definitive answers on this....is there a cannabinoid portion to the drug test in Korea or is it just a TBPE drug test (which detects stimulants)? I'd appreciate if anyone could give me a current report on what the drug test in Korea now encompasses as I know it has changed over time. |
Cannabinoids ARE tested for. It was brought back in late last year.
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at ALL medical facilities?
i can only speak from experience, bu they didn't test at my hospital late last year. (the test consisted of them asking me if i smoked cannabis. yes, i'm serious.)
while i understand this was late last year, i haven't found any proof that they test at ALL medical facilities now. particularly outside of seoul. i know there was talk of it, but i honestly haven't seen it in practice.
that said, don't smoke cannabis and expect to get a job here. it's not worth the risk. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| brickabrack wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Stay off the 420 if you wish to teach abroad....thats seems like easy enough common sense...then again 420 is known to slow the mind.
In all seriousness, Tom gave you your answer OP. Best of luck. |
That's not true.
OP, detox before you come. They'll probably test you for it.
Although, not all med centers will.
Tom is usually one of the most informed here, so I'd give
his reply some thought. |
You are right of course 420 speeds up the mind, heightens reflexes and boosts memory. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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calm down man.
Its Saturday night for you now...go have a drink |
You know what is ignorant? This: "Alcohol: good. Marijuana: bad."
Studies of adults show no loss of intelligence from long term marijuana use, even among heavy users. (Did you know Carl Sagan did the 420?)
I recently spoke with a prostitute who had spent much of her life in jail. She said out of all the drugs she had done, alcohol ruined her life the most.
From the Current Events section of the forum:
Is Korea too soft on sex crimes?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=208479
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| According to the police, Cho served three years in jail under charge of injury resulting from rape in 1983 and has committed 14 other offenses, which have landed him in jail for another seven years and four months. |
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| The court said it took into consideration that Cho was drunk, and thus was �weaker mentally and physically.� Under the Korean law, when an intoxicated person commits a crime, the court can reduce a sentence. |
This is what I can't comprehend. Why do people who commit crimes while drunk (including sex crimes) get a lower sentence?
Alcohol does so much damage to Korean society, which is why I don't understand the general attitudes towards it.
Marijuana is strictly illegal in Korea, but heavy drinking is tolerated and even encouraged. Which of the two has been shown to increase the incidence of violent behavior, and which has not? Do you know the answer?
Cullen Thomas got three and a half years in jail for bringing marijuana into the country (what he did hurt no one) and the rapist got three years in jail. Who should have gotten a longer sentence?
Look at this recent survey from the United States:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/august_2009/51_rate_alcohol_more_dangerous_than_marijuana
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| Fifty-one percent (51%) of American adults say alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 19% disagree and say pot is worse. |
Developing Brains: Alcohol Worse than Marijuana
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It appears that when it comes to teen brain development, parents should be more worried about alcohol abuse than marijuana abuse. Two recent studies have been published showing that alcohol -- a legal substance (though not legal for teens in the U.S.) -- is considered more dangerous than marijuana, which is illegal in many countries.
One study has been published in the U.S., in the journal Clinical EEG and neuroscience: official journal of the EEG and Clinical Neuroscience Society (ENCS), and shows that alcohol has a stronger effect on teen brain development than marijuana. The other is a study published in the Lancet, offering the results of substance classification by a number of U.K. professionals, purporting that alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana to individuals and to society. |
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| Findings from the U.S. study, showing that alcohol use in teens causes more irregular brain function than marijuana, would seem to square with efforts in the U.K. to encourage new drug classification. In the Lancet, David Nutt at Bristol University, along with his colleagues, asked psychologists and scientifically or medically trained police to rank different substances according to how harmful they are. The study purports that experts rank alcohol (and tobacco) as more harmful than marijuana. In a list of 20 substances, alcohol came in at number five, tobacco came in at number nine, and marijuana/cannabis came in at number eleven. |
Where do these pro-alcohol/anti-marijuana sentiments in Korea come from? Could somebody please explain? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
calm down man.
Its Saturday night for you now...go have a drink |
You know what is ignorant? This: "Alcohol: good. Marijuana: bad."
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Wrong equation. Here's the right one.
"Alcohol: legal. Marijuana: illegal"
No, no don't thank me. I was happy to help.
And as an aside you do know that certain Korean websites do read this site and occasionally translate threads on here right? I don't think we need to see headlines like "Teachers on Dave's Eslcafe argue for illegal drug use."...
Yes I know that nobody here is arguing for it but don't expect the Korean Times/Herald to understand such subtle distinctions.  |
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alljokingaside
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:56 am Post subject: |
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So what? Kowtow to their demands in cyberspace, in our mind, our boards and speech?
As long as we're not violating any such law, then we are free to discuss these issues as we rationals wish.
Alcohol's much more detrimental to physiology than marajuana in so many ways. Aside from what's already been said, though inconclusive due to methodology, studies strongly suggest that short-term mem. loss is reversible, smoking is only slightly worse or on par with cigs, and psychosis is probably not caused by alcohol (except in "vulnerable populations") while alcohol is like napalm on the system. Lest we forget drunk driving+poor judgment, bar fights, mornings that made us glad that the night was a hole, and Korsakoffs.
So the argument now's-
Alcohol- legal. Marajuana- illegal.
Then, jaywalking, running reds, teaching sans co-teacher, porn, smoking in non-smoking area, downloaded movies - illegal.
Now, as a gambling man, I'd put money that most here breach the law in some way.
Just saying. While not ambrose, its far down the list of things that harm the body/mind compared with many, other legal substances. |
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plchron
Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| i had the med. test last week. weed is tested for |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| No worry!! Fire em up!!! |
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alljokingaside
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| the best is when you get the med right before jetting off for X days to greener pastures. |
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Ribena
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Then, jaywalking, running reds, teaching sans co-teacher, porn, smoking in non-smoking area, downloaded movies - illegal.
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There are plenty of places where "jaywalking" and watching porn isn't illegal unless it involves children or animals. |
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