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7-year-old girl abducted and raped in S Korea, police say
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JustinC



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who repeatedly goes on an anonymous internet forum to defend the rights of a child rapist?
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Titus



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustinC wrote:
Who repeatedly goes on an anonymous internet forum to defend the rights of a child rapist?


That's not fair.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
It's one thing to fantasize about beating down scum Batman style (I know I do), it's another to have a society that supports vigilantism. It's only a matter of time a vigilante kills someone and his version of morality doesn't match everybody else's.


True, vigilantism is a cousin of the witch hunt and the lynch mob.
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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i say instead of chemical castration cut to the chase and do the real thing.
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Titus



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
fermentation wrote:
It's one thing to fantasize about beating down scum Batman style (I know I do), it's another to have a society that supports vigilantism. It's only a matter of time a vigilante kills someone and his version of morality doesn't match everybody else's.


True, vigilantism is a cousin of the witch hunt and the lynch mob.


Both of which have a legitimate place in life.
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

It's pretty simple, isn't it? Vigilantism is wrong. It's always wrong. It's never right.


CentralCali...this is just not true...not in theory and not in reality.

The fact that you are making this an absolute...makes it really quite easy to refute.

No thesis required.
Only common sense.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titus wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
fermentation wrote:
It's one thing to fantasize about beating down scum Batman style (I know I do), it's another to have a society that supports vigilantism. It's only a matter of time a vigilante kills someone and his version of morality doesn't match everybody else's.


True, vigilantism is a cousin of the witch hunt and the lynch mob.


Both of which have a legitimate place in life.


The lynch mob, yes in very very extreme circumstances, as in the aforementioned Breslan School Massacre. Witch Hunts? Never.

That being said when it comes to victim's families attacking the perpetrator in court, I'd let em get in one or two shots before I'd separate them, that and give them some slap on the wrist like "disrupting court".
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My biggest problem with vigilantiism is the OOPS! factor.

How many time have we seen the mob go after THE WRONG GUY?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_malkgGSs0c&feature=related
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustinC wrote:
Who repeatedly goes on an anonymous internet forum to defend the rights of a child rapist?


Interesting concept of fair you seem to have here, J. I'm repeatedly defending the concept of the rule of law. Cotton to that yet?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titus wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
fermentation wrote:
It's one thing to fantasize about beating down scum Batman style (I know I do), it's another to have a society that supports vigilantism. It's only a matter of time a vigilante kills someone and his version of morality doesn't match everybody else's.


True, vigilantism is a cousin of the witch hunt and the lynch mob.


Both of which have a legitimate place in life.


What is the legitimate place in a civilized society of a witch hunt? Of a lynch mob?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
CentralCali wrote:

It's pretty simple, isn't it? Vigilantism is wrong. It's always wrong. It's never right.


CentralCali...this is just not true...not in theory and not in reality.

The fact that you are making this an absolute...makes it really quite easy to refute.

No thesis required.
Only common sense.


You may need to get another set of "common sense" if you think it's easy to refute the argument that the unlawful taking of a human life is unlawful.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Titus wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
fermentation wrote:
It's one thing to fantasize about beating down scum Batman style (I know I do), it's another to have a society that supports vigilantism. It's only a matter of time a vigilante kills someone and his version of morality doesn't match everybody else's.


True, vigilantism is a cousin of the witch hunt and the lynch mob.


Both of which have a legitimate place in life.


The lynch mob, yes in very very extreme circumstances, as in the aforementioned Breslan School Massacre. Witch Hunts? Never.


And how'd that whole lynch mob mentality thing work out in that case again? Oh, that's right. The government sent in supposedly trained personnel to end the hostage situation. Do you seriously believe that a lynch mob of untrained and poorly armed persons would've had success in that situation?

By the way, it's Beslan.

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That being said when it comes to victim's families attacking the perpetrator in court, I'd let em get in one or two shots before I'd separate them, that and give them some slap on the wrist like "disrupting court".


Still supporting anarchy, I see.
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JustinC



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Titus wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
fermentation wrote:
It's one thing to fantasize about beating down scum Batman style (I know I do), it's another to have a society that supports vigilantism. It's only a matter of time a vigilante kills someone and his version of morality doesn't match everybody else's.


True, vigilantism is a cousin of the witch hunt and the lynch mob.


Both of which have a legitimate place in life.


The lynch mob, yes in very very extreme circumstances, as in the aforementioned Breslan School Massacre. Witch Hunts? Never.

That being said when it comes to victim's families attacking the perpetrator in court, I'd let em get in one or two shots before I'd separate them, that and give them some slap on the wrist like "disrupting court".


Sounds reasonable for certain cases, you couldn't really justify for for non-payment of parking tickets!
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slothrop



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aq8knyus



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oppression? I bet Thomas Jeffersons chattel felt more oppression than the white americans ever did.
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