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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: wo(man) Reply with quote

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/college-allows-transgender-man-to-expose-himself-to-young-girls.html

[quote]A Washington college said their non-discrimination policy prevents them from stopping a transgender man from exposing himself to young girls inside a women’s locker room, according to a group of concerned parents.
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I think that would take some explaning to a 6 year old! Embarassed
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s.tickbeat



Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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“Clearly, allowing a person who is biologically a man to undress and expose himself to young girls places those girls at risk for emotional distress and harm,” he wrote in a letter to the college. “Any reasonable person would view this as dangerous to the young girls involved. The fact that this individual was sitting in plain view of young girls changing into their swimsuits puts you and Evergreen on notice of possible future harm.”


HOLY SHIT MY DAUGHTER SAW A *beep*.

Seriously though, six years old seems a good time to start a conversation about gender, sexuality, maturity, and appropriate vs. inappropriate behavior. When kids start becoming aware of differences and discrimination.

Honestly, I don't see a problem with a woman (who happens to have a *beep*) walking around naked in the locker room. It's a good point for discussion. The USA is so puritan it's almost maddening - that simply *seeing* someone's genitals is cause for trauma or emotional distress shows how very problematic ideas of the body and gender have become.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-So glad I don't live in the USA-



-Freak Show-
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Titus



Joined: 19 May 2012

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.tickbeat wrote:

Honestly, I don't see a problem with a woman (who happens to have a *beep*)


Ah, I found the problem.

Women do not have dicks. Women have vaginas.

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken. (TD)
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...he's a dude.

While the USA may be puritan in cases, letting a man use the women's facilities seems a bit odd.
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People have a right to certain privacies. these women were made to feel uncomfortable. Not a big issue.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.tickbeat wrote:
Honestly, I don't see a problem with a woman (who happens to have a *beep*) walking around naked in the locker room. It's a good point for discussion.


I'd be lying if I said I cared about this totally local, non-newsworthy issue, but none the less, the notion that six-year old children should be exposed to transsexual's penises to spur "discussion" is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in my life.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.tickbeat wrote:
The USA is so puritan it's almost maddening


And this is the scary fact about the USA.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it "so Puritan"?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: It's not a superiority complex when you really are superior

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="s.tickbeat"]
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“of differences and discrimination.

Honestly, I don't see a problem with a woman (who happens to have a *beep*) walking around naked in the locker room. It's a good point for discussion.



He's not a woman though...he's a man who dresses in woman's clothes and lives as a woman.

Transgender is not the same as transsexual.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is that my mom tossed my sister and me into the bathtub together when we were little. I grew up knowing that boys and girls were different. No big deal...until I was about 11 or so. (No, we were not taking our nightly baths together until I was 11.)

This situation is special. I agree with TUM. This person is a transsexual, not a transgender (given the information we have).

In my opinion, the adult women in the locker room should have--if they were offended by the presence of an outwardly appearing male--picked him/her up and tossed him/her out in the hall without clothes. Social mores are social mores until they change.
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comm



Joined: 22 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that's how it's going to be, just divide locker rooms based on physical attributes, rather than "sex" or "gender".

Penises this way ->
<- Vaginas that way
If you're not sure, ask a staff member to classify your junk and send you on your way.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Strikes me as a reasonable, logical, and intelligent solution. Any one of those three qualities is enough for it to fail in the real world, sadly.
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NovaKart



Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see anything wrong with her/him using the locker room as long as he's not parading around naked in the place. The article says s/he was sprawled out naked in the sauna, perhaps it's exaggerating.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what constitutes "parading around". What if he/she/it has an itch and continues to scratch that spot in front of others and smiles gleefully while doing so? Would that be parading around?
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