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Titus



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: “they are disgusting Serbs.” Reply with quote

This beast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4 is back.

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/district-of-corruption/the-rudeness-of-the-czechs/

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After a lifetime of service to her nation (the fourth one), you would think that this poor, old, unidentified lady would be left in peace to enjoy her approaching twilight years of senility. All she wants is to knit some woollies, do an occasional book signing, collect porcelain knick knacks, and drink the blood of freshly slaughtered infants.

But the rude, nasty people of Prague insist on upsetting the poor old dear. Instead of buying her latest book of memoirs, in which she recounts tender, heart-to-heart meetings with her fellow blood-soaked psychos, Kim Jong-Il and Bibi Netanyahu, they insist she sign photos of people who would have eventually died anyway if the US Air Force hadn’t dropped bombs on them.

Visibly shook by the outburst of incivility, the poor old lady, who could very well be anyone’s grandmother, was so upset she stormed back to her hotel room to change her incontinence pants and boil a kitten.


http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/albright-raps-disgusting-serbs-in-prague-book-signing/?cat_orig=world

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(Washington Examiner) Clinton-era Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, confronted by pro-Serbian protesters who called her a war criminal during a recent book signing in her native Prague, pushed them aside as “disgusting Serbs” in a confrontation going viral on the internet.

Displaying her trademark feistiness, Albright is seen in the video as sternly shouting “get out, get out,” to the protesters who arrived with a film crew. As they closed in on her, she stood up and said, “That’s it! Get out,” and soon walked away with an aide after saying, “they are disgusting Serbs.”


I wasn't paying attention during the Serbian war but was it made clear that a racial hatred of Serbs was - at least in part - a motivating factor when Madeleine Albright, William Cohen, Tom Lantos, Wesley Clark, Richard Holbrooke, Michael Scharf, Sandy Berger, George Soros and others convinced Clinton to destroy Serbia?

Mrs Disgusting Serbs (and 500k dead babies being A-OK) was recently awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/26/madeleine-albright-to-receive-presidential-medal-of-freedom/

Albright is a beast. What can we infer from her receiving the Medal of Freedom? What does it tell us about the nature of American power and the goals of American actions?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was actually thinking about her recently after tuning into the presidential debates, hearing Obama and Romney trying to one-up each other over who could put harsher sanctions on Iran (as if it's actually a good thing). It reminded me of her crass approval of 500 thousand dead Iraqi children from the sanctions she imposed under Clinton... She looks us straight in the eye with that evil face of hers and says "it was worth it". Not unlike Stalin calling a million deaths "a statistic".

Yes, these people truly are monsters, the very worst and most vile of what humanity has to offer. And yes, I would say she is a despicable war criminal and should continue to be called out as such.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

American action against the Serbs was quite curious. Clinton admitted he wanted to show Muslims he'd bomb Christians to defend them. What a bizarre rationale upon which to kill people. Meanwhile, the Kosovar are not the heroes/victims the Americans portrayed them.

Nevertheless, Albright's statement really establishes very little. It could be she has racial animus following the genocide at Srebrenica. Or she could have been biased against them from the beginning. Its inconclusive.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wesley Clark:

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Let’s not forget what the origin of the problem is. There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.


Maybe this was about oil too.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She personally killed 500 thousand iraqi kids. Amazing. No one died in iraq except because of sanctions. CLinton destroyed Serbia. You mean it's gone, disappeared. Wow.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She personally killed 500 thousand iraqi kids. Amazing. No one died in iraq except because of sanctions. CLinton destroyed Serbia. You mean it's gone, disappeared. Wow.

Failed logic.

I suppose the crimes of Stalin, Hitler, Mao (et al.) don't matter? Seeing as they didn't "personally" kill millions of people? What say you?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She personally killed 500 thousand iraqi kids. Amazing. No one died in iraq except because of sanctions. CLinton destroyed Serbia. You mean it's gone, disappeared. Wow.


The KLA is a jihadist terrorist organization that we actively supported. Their prime minister and others in his government were recently indicted for organ trafficking. And we gave them millions of dollars and bombed Serbian babies.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
She personally killed 500 thousand iraqi kids. Amazing. No one died in iraq except because of sanctions.


Saddam caused it all. He intentionally kept food and medicine from Iraqis . and even sold food and medicine abroad.

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/02/iraq99.htm

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/02/photo1.htm

Iraq Sanctions facts:


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The first casualty of Pilger...
John SweeneySaturday, 28th June 2003J John Sweeney says that John Pilger blames the Americans alone for birth defects in Iraq, and overlooks evidence that implicates Saddam Hussein

The Americans are making a hash of rebuilding Iraq, but one of the not so bad things they have done is to give Iraqis the freedom to scribble. On the wall outside the Baathist ministry of health the other day, a graffiti artist had scrawled in perfect English, 'We need a health ministry free of corruption.'


For years John Pilger – 'one of the world's most renowned investigative journalists', it says on the back of his latest book – has been insisting that the West, not Saddam, is to blame for the crisis in Iraq's public health; that 5,200 Iraqi children were dying every month; that Western depleted-uranium weapons were to blame for an epidemic of cancers; that sanctions crippled Iraq's doctors. Funnily enough, Pilger's journalism echoed what the Baathist regime wanted people to hear.


But very recently in Baghdad what some might call the PilgerñBaathist line was put to a very public test by yet another American blunder. They handpicked a new acting health minister, Dr Ali Shenan al-Janabi, who was number three at the health ministry under Saddam. According to virtually every Iraqi doctor I spoke to, he was an unacceptable choice. The Iraqi doctors were not keen to say so to the BBC on camera. To criticise the Baath party on the record is, even now, something that no Iraqi will do lightly. Then two surgeons at Al Kindi teaching hospital in Baghdad, Dr Rahim Ismael and Dlair Omar, mulled it over and said, 'OK, we'll do it.' They damned the health ministry under Saddam as a corrupt and brutal instrument of state oppression. They said that many medicines had been held back in warehouses. The ministry was trying to make healthcare worse in Iraq, the goal being to blacken the name of UN sanctions, which Saddam detested as a brake on his power. The fewer drugs, the worse the equipment and the more dead babies, the better it was for the regime. Any Iraqi doctors who didn't toe the line were punished.


At a press conference to launch the new acting health minister, Dr Ali Shenan replied that what his critics were really complaining about were Western-led United Nations sanctions against Iraq. As the words came out of his mouth, I thought to myself, 'He's talking John Pilger.' But Dr Ali Shenan was sacked, thanks to the doctors, while John Pilger is still in business.


In Victorian London the biggest killer was not the absence of medicines. It was unclean water, untreated sewage and uncollected rubbish. In Saddam's Iraq dirty water, untreated sewage and uncollected rubbish from the Shia slums of Baghdad and Basra were state policy for a regime that earned $12 billion in oil revenue every year. Yet Pilger makes no mention of Saddam's neglect of public health. Why?


And then there's the 'Hiroshima effect' of depleted uranium. Pilger wrote in the Daily Mirror just before the war, 'Depleted uranium [is] a sinister component of tank shells and airborne missiles. In truth, it is a form of nuclear warfare, and all the evidence suggests that its use in the Gulf war in 1991 has caused an epidemic in southern Iraq: what the doctors there call "the Hiroshima effect", especially among children.' That the cancer rates from 1991 onwards are the fault of the West's depleted-uranium weapons alone was one of Saddam's central messages.


In his television documentary film, Paying the Price, broadcast three years ago, Pilger did the rounds of a Basra hospital. He spoke to a paediatrician, Dr Ginan Ghalib Hassen. He wrote it all up in his book The New Rulers of the World: 'In the next bed, a child lay in his shrouded mother's arms. One side of his head was severely swollen. "This is neuroplastoma," said Dr Hassen. "It is a very unusual tumour. Before 1991, we saw only one case of this tumour in two years. Now we have many cases. I am a doctor; I am not supposed to cry, but I cry every day, because this is torture."' Pilger asked her, 'What do you say to those in the West who deny the connection between depleted uranium and the deformities of these children?' 'That is not true. How much proof do they want? There is every relation between congenital malformation and depleted uranium. Before 1991, we saw nothing like this at all.'


Felicity Arbuthnot, Pilger's senior researcher for the film, wrote in a magazine article published in September 1999, 'By early 1992, doctors in Iraq were bewildered by the rise in birth deformities – some so grotesque and unusual that they expected to see them only in textbooks and perhaps once or twice in a lifetime. They compared them to those recorded in the Pacific Islands after the nuclear testing in the 1950s. Cancers, too, were rising, especially among the young, the most susceptible to radiation.'


Hang on a minute. Cancers don't happen overnight. They develop after a latency period of at least four years. The Iraqis reported a rash of cancers in the south from 1992 onwards. The cancers that happened in 1992 cannot, scientifically, have been caused in 1992 – or 1991 when the depleted uranium was used – but at least four years before that. 'To say any different is ridiculous; it would deny the evidence from Hiroshima and Nagasaki,' Dr Nick Plowman, the head of oncology at Barts, told me.


In the mid-1980s Iranian human-wave offensives almost took Basra, but they were stopped by Saddam's chemical weapons. The UN found incontrovertible evidence that Saddam used mustard gas against the Iranians every year between 1984 and 1988. When the Iranians came close to Basra, the Iraqis dropped gas on their own people, too. Nearly all of the war was fought in Iraq, not Iran, so that's where Saddam dropped his chemical weapons.


Mustard gas – sulphur mustard – is carcinogenic and mutagenic. That is, sulphur mustard causes cancers, leukaemias and birth defects. The children of Iranian soldiers who were gassed by Saddam's men have developed terrible cancers and birth defects. No depleted-uranium weapons were used on them. The children of Halabja, the Kurdish town gassed by Saddam, have developed cancers and birth defects. Again, no depleted uranium was used on them.


Pilger knows all about chemical weapons. He wrote in the Mirror in January, 'I often came upon terribly deformed Vietnamese children in villages where American aircraft had sprayed a herbicide called Agent Orange. This terrible chemical weapon was dumped on almost half of South Vietnam. Today, as the poison continues to move through water and soil and food, children continue to be born without palates and chins and scrotums or are stillborn. Many have leukaemia.' If chemical weapons cause cancers in Vietnam, why don't they do the same in Iraq? The answer seems a simple one: chemical weapons cause cancer so long as they are dropped by the Americans.


Shortly after Pilger's programme was broadcast in 2000, Arbuthnot phoned Gwynne Roberts, the only journalist brave enough to go to Iraq in 1988 and dig up soil contaminated by Saddam's chemical weapons. Portland Down found mustard gas in Roberts's soil samples. Arbuthnot was puzzled: how could the cancers in Iraq have started in 1992? Roberts's view, like mine, is that – without letting the West off the hook on the question of depleted uranium – the contribution that Saddam's chemical weapons may have made to the Hiroshima Effect should be seriously investigated.


I emailed John Pilger, asking him, 'You know about Saddam's use of chemical weapons, so why didn't you raise the possibility of that being the cause of the cancers and birth defects?' He replied, 'You apparently think my film was made in 1991. It wasn't. It was made in 1999, eight years after the 1991 Gulf war, or twice the time it takes for deformities to develop, according to you. In the film I clearly put to one of the doctors the doubts that depleted uranium is the cause of the deformities. Her answer was a good one. Another specialist himself raises the doubts and addresses them. At no point in the film do I say that DU is, on its own, responsible for the extraordinary rise in cancers over, I repeat, a period of eight years up to when the film was made.'


This is artful. If Pilger and Arbuthnot accept that DU cannot have caused cancers observed in 1992, why haven't they made this clear? None of the cancers and birth defects that Pilger's researcher dates back to 1992 can be the fault of depleted uranium. To omit the possibility that some of the cancers were caused by Saddam's chemical weapons is to misrepresent the facts. To imply by that omission that depleted uranium is solely responsible for the cancers and birth defects in Iraq as he does in his book, his film and in the Daily Mirror is a disgrace to journalism.


I accuse John Pilger of cheating the public and favouring a dictator.


John Sweeney is special correspondent for the BBC.

The Spectator, 22 Old Queen Street, London, SW1H 9HP. All Articles and Content Copyright ©2007 by The Spectator (1828) Ltd. All Rights Reserved

http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/the-magazine/features/11261/the-first-casualty-of-pilger.thtml
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much ethnic cleansing by the Bosnians was reported in the independant media during the civil war? I never heard of anything reported. Always Serbs along with one or maybe two incidents by the Croatians.

The Serbs were acting like Nazis.

Yet another ridiculous anti-American post.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
How much ethnic cleansing by the Bosnians was reported in the independant media during the civil war? I never heard of anything reported. Always Serbs along with one or maybe two incidents by the Croatians.

The Serbs were acting like Nazis.

Yet another ridiculous anti-American post.


Bosnians were killing Serbian babies...Wahabbi foreign fighters came into Bosnia and are still there. They used terrorist attacks against Serbian civilians.
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Titus



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:


The Serbs were acting like Nazis.



They're hiding under your bed.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:


Yet another ridiculous anti-American post.


BINGO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Peace_Accords



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
rollo wrote:
She personally killed 500 thousand iraqi kids. Amazing. No one died in iraq except because of sanctions.


Saddam caused it all. He intentionally kept food and medicine from Iraqis . and even sold food and medicine abroad.

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/02/iraq99.htm

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/02/photo1.htm

Iraq Sanctions facts:


Quote:
The first casualty of Pilger...
John SweeneySaturday, 28th June 2003J John Sweeney says that John Pilger blames the Americans alone for birth defects in Iraq, and overlooks evidence that implicates Saddam Hussein

The Americans are making a hash of rebuilding Iraq, but one of the not so bad things they have done is to give Iraqis the freedom to scribble. On the wall outside the Baathist ministry of health the other day, a graffiti artist had scrawled in perfect English, 'We need a health ministry free of corruption.'


For years John Pilger – 'one of the world's most renowned investigative journalists', it says on the back of his latest book – has been insisting that the West, not Saddam, is to blame for the crisis in Iraq's public health; that 5,200 Iraqi children were dying every month; that Western depleted-uranium weapons were to blame for an epidemic of cancers; that sanctions crippled Iraq's doctors. Funnily enough, Pilger's journalism echoed what the Baathist regime wanted people to hear.


But very recently in Baghdad what some might call the PilgerñBaathist line was put to a very public test by yet another American blunder. They handpicked a new acting health minister, Dr Ali Shenan al-Janabi, who was number three at the health ministry under Saddam. According to virtually every Iraqi doctor I spoke to, he was an unacceptable choice. The Iraqi doctors were not keen to say so to the BBC on camera. To criticise the Baath party on the record is, even now, something that no Iraqi will do lightly. Then two surgeons at Al Kindi teaching hospital in Baghdad, Dr Rahim Ismael and Dlair Omar, mulled it over and said, 'OK, we'll do it.' They damned the health ministry under Saddam as a corrupt and brutal instrument of state oppression. They said that many medicines had been held back in warehouses. The ministry was trying to make healthcare worse in Iraq, the goal being to blacken the name of UN sanctions, which Saddam detested as a brake on his power. The fewer drugs, the worse the equipment and the more dead babies, the better it was for the regime. Any Iraqi doctors who didn't toe the line were punished.


At a press conference to launch the new acting health minister, Dr Ali Shenan replied that what his critics were really complaining about were Western-led United Nations sanctions against Iraq. As the words came out of his mouth, I thought to myself, 'He's talking John Pilger.' But Dr Ali Shenan was sacked, thanks to the doctors, while John Pilger is still in business.


In Victorian London the biggest killer was not the absence of medicines. It was unclean water, untreated sewage and uncollected rubbish. In Saddam's Iraq dirty water, untreated sewage and uncollected rubbish from the Shia slums of Baghdad and Basra were state policy for a regime that earned $12 billion in oil revenue every year. Yet Pilger makes no mention of Saddam's neglect of public health. Why?


And then there's the 'Hiroshima effect' of depleted uranium. Pilger wrote in the Daily Mirror just before the war, 'Depleted uranium [is] a sinister component of tank shells and airborne missiles. In truth, it is a form of nuclear warfare, and all the evidence suggests that its use in the Gulf war in 1991 has caused an epidemic in southern Iraq: what the doctors there call "the Hiroshima effect", especially among children.' That the cancer rates from 1991 onwards are the fault of the West's depleted-uranium weapons alone was one of Saddam's central messages.


In his television documentary film, Paying the Price, broadcast three years ago, Pilger did the rounds of a Basra hospital. He spoke to a paediatrician, Dr Ginan Ghalib Hassen. He wrote it all up in his book The New Rulers of the World: 'In the next bed, a child lay in his shrouded mother's arms. One side of his head was severely swollen. "This is neuroplastoma," said Dr Hassen. "It is a very unusual tumour. Before 1991, we saw only one case of this tumour in two years. Now we have many cases. I am a doctor; I am not supposed to cry, but I cry every day, because this is torture."' Pilger asked her, 'What do you say to those in the West who deny the connection between depleted uranium and the deformities of these children?' 'That is not true. How much proof do they want? There is every relation between congenital malformation and depleted uranium. Before 1991, we saw nothing like this at all.'


Felicity Arbuthnot, Pilger's senior researcher for the film, wrote in a magazine article published in September 1999, 'By early 1992, doctors in Iraq were bewildered by the rise in birth deformities – some so grotesque and unusual that they expected to see them only in textbooks and perhaps once or twice in a lifetime. They compared them to those recorded in the Pacific Islands after the nuclear testing in the 1950s. Cancers, too, were rising, especially among the young, the most susceptible to radiation.'


Hang on a minute. Cancers don't happen overnight. They develop after a latency period of at least four years. The Iraqis reported a rash of cancers in the south from 1992 onwards. The cancers that happened in 1992 cannot, scientifically, have been caused in 1992 – or 1991 when the depleted uranium was used – but at least four years before that. 'To say any different is ridiculous; it would deny the evidence from Hiroshima and Nagasaki,' Dr Nick Plowman, the head of oncology at Barts, told me.


In the mid-1980s Iranian human-wave offensives almost took Basra, but they were stopped by Saddam's chemical weapons. The UN found incontrovertible evidence that Saddam used mustard gas against the Iranians every year between 1984 and 1988. When the Iranians came close to Basra, the Iraqis dropped gas on their own people, too. Nearly all of the war was fought in Iraq, not Iran, so that's where Saddam dropped his chemical weapons.


Mustard gas – sulphur mustard – is carcinogenic and mutagenic. That is, sulphur mustard causes cancers, leukaemias and birth defects. The children of Iranian soldiers who were gassed by Saddam's men have developed terrible cancers and birth defects. No depleted-uranium weapons were used on them. The children of Halabja, the Kurdish town gassed by Saddam, have developed cancers and birth defects. Again, no depleted uranium was used on them.


Pilger knows all about chemical weapons. He wrote in the Mirror in January, 'I often came upon terribly deformed Vietnamese children in villages where American aircraft had sprayed a herbicide called Agent Orange. This terrible chemical weapon was dumped on almost half of South Vietnam. Today, as the poison continues to move through water and soil and food, children continue to be born without palates and chins and scrotums or are stillborn. Many have leukaemia.' If chemical weapons cause cancers in Vietnam, why don't they do the same in Iraq? The answer seems a simple one: chemical weapons cause cancer so long as they are dropped by the Americans.


Shortly after Pilger's programme was broadcast in 2000, Arbuthnot phoned Gwynne Roberts, the only journalist brave enough to go to Iraq in 1988 and dig up soil contaminated by Saddam's chemical weapons. Portland Down found mustard gas in Roberts's soil samples. Arbuthnot was puzzled: how could the cancers in Iraq have started in 1992? Roberts's view, like mine, is that – without letting the West off the hook on the question of depleted uranium – the contribution that Saddam's chemical weapons may have made to the Hiroshima Effect should be seriously investigated.


I emailed John Pilger, asking him, 'You know about Saddam's use of chemical weapons, so why didn't you raise the possibility of that being the cause of the cancers and birth defects?' He replied, 'You apparently think my film was made in 1991. It wasn't. It was made in 1999, eight years after the 1991 Gulf war, or twice the time it takes for deformities to develop, according to you. In the film I clearly put to one of the doctors the doubts that depleted uranium is the cause of the deformities. Her answer was a good one. Another specialist himself raises the doubts and addresses them. At no point in the film do I say that DU is, on its own, responsible for the extraordinary rise in cancers over, I repeat, a period of eight years up to when the film was made.'


This is artful. If Pilger and Arbuthnot accept that DU cannot have caused cancers observed in 1992, why haven't they made this clear? None of the cancers and birth defects that Pilger's researcher dates back to 1992 can be the fault of depleted uranium. To omit the possibility that some of the cancers were caused by Saddam's chemical weapons is to misrepresent the facts. To imply by that omission that depleted uranium is solely responsible for the cancers and birth defects in Iraq as he does in his book, his film and in the Daily Mirror is a disgrace to journalism.


I accuse John Pilger of cheating the public and favouring a dictator.


John Sweeney is special correspondent for the BBC.

The Spectator, 22 Old Queen Street, London, SW1H 9HP. All Articles and Content Copyright ©2007 by The Spectator (1828) Ltd. All Rights Reserved

http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/the-magazine/features/11261/the-first-casualty-of-pilger.thtml


Interesting points, but didn't Saddam invade Iran at America's behest, and weren't those chemical weapons sold to him by the West to aid him in the war against Iran? Our hands are not clean.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep Germany sold Saddam chemical weapons, missle technology.

But I love the way the victims become the bad guys in some posts. Right out off Hitlers playbook.

Now we all know from reading Pilger that Saddam shared all food , medicines fairly and equally. We also know that there was no long standing feud over the Shatt-al-arab waterway. that the sole cause of all human suffering is the U.S.

My suggestion to many posters study history, improve your reading skills.
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She's a beast? just curious, what is the op's opinion on Milosevic?
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