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SHOCKING Korean Teacher - beating female elementary student
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
I'm all for protecting kids and whatnot, but this coddling of children to their every desire today is just absurd.

PC is no good.


And the only people against CP are the ones who never actually experienced it.
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3DR



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
3DR wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Who's being "PC"? Just because you say those who disagree with you are PC, does not, in fact, make that so.


I could care less if you agreed with me or not...it's still PC behavior as far as I'm concerned.


Good, because if I were to agree with you, I'd be basically a lazy researcher.

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I've told you several times the difference between walloping like in the video, and spanking as a punishment.


Look, there's simply no excuse to strike a child. There are effective methods, used around the world, to discipline the child and those methods do not include striking the child. Yes, the punishment inflicted in the video in this thread is quite abusive. The thing you seem to fail to understand is that striking the child is abuse, regardless of the rage or lack thereof involved with the person inflicting the abuse.

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I've also provided evidence (and there' tons more if you just use Google). I don't know what more I can do for you. Don't change the subject because you cannot come up with a rebuttal.


Oh, get off it. You said "look at the kids in the US." I asked for proof of your assertion. You then trot out something regarding kids in the UK. Last I heard, the UK is not the US. But, just for fun, perhaps you should look at your own link before spouting. It's quite clearly stated that the problem with disciplining students in the UK is simply that the schools do not use any effective means. It's a cop-out to consider corporal punishment the only way to manage a classroom or even as a cure-all for the current state of affairs in the UK. Effective means include, as mentioned upthread, removing the child from the classroom, removing the child from that particular school, among other methods.

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Still...PC.


Right. As far as you're concerned. Big whoop. Being anti-child abuse is not political correctness. It's called being a decent human being.

Oh, and a parent's impression or a teacher's impression of what's happening mean exactly nothing. Facts mean something. You can dismiss this link if you wish because of its obvious agenda; however, the fact remains that they cite legitimate studies which show that things are getting better in the US schools which do not use corporal punishment.

More links for you:

http://mhbenton.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/corporal-punishment-does-it-add-value-to-education/

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mde/corporal_punishment_alternatives_193705_7.pdf

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-06-28/spanking-mental-problems/55964610/1

http://www.phoenixchildrens.com/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf


All new age, liberal, hogwash.

Here's a better study that shows spanking is good:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/548-new-study-finds-spanking-is-good-for-kids

No biased agenda. Simple.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't like it so you call it political correctness, new age, liberal, and hogwash. How is that not trolling? Good riddance.
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3DR



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
You don't like it so you call it political correctness, new age, liberal, and hogwash. How is that not trolling? Good riddance.


No, I call it for what it is and because you don't like it or can't offer any substantial arguments, you call me a troll or say "rubbish" post after post.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
3DR wrote:
I'm all for protecting kids and whatnot, but this coddling of children to their every desire today is just absurd.

PC is no good.


And the only people against CP are the ones who never actually experienced it.


What?

My elementary school had CP. 90% of the time is was inneffective and had more negative results than positive ones.
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kabrams



Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
3DR wrote:
I'm all for protecting kids and whatnot, but this coddling of children to their every desire today is just absurd.

PC is no good.


And the only people against CP are the ones who never actually experienced it.


I experienced CP and I am against it.
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