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Transgenders in sports...is it fair (or foul) play?
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Transgenders in sports...is it fair (or foul) play? Reply with quote

I mean ya know get real. This guy thinks he's a woman and now plays for the women's team. I guess he (she?) showers with them and stuff afterwards. It just seems strange like ya know freaky. Now don't get me wrong there were times in the past that I feigned like I was confused and just walked into the ladies room but this goes way beyond something like that.
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/17011957-419/transgender-player-attains-college-basketball-first.html
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too young to know about this world famous athlete and coach?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards


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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up in the 70's and 80's but never heard about it.
To me it's all a freak show anyway.
In fact, since these loud mouthed American feminists are always screaming about "equality" then why do even women's sports exist?
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
I grew up in the 70's and 80's but never heard about it.
To me it's all a freak show anyway.
In fact, since these loud mouthed American feminists are always screaming about "equality" then why do even women's sports exist?


I don't get your argument. Besides, if sex reassignment surgery gave people an edge in sports, there would be an awful lot more former men competing at the highest level of women's sports, don't you think?
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Transgenders in sports...is it fair (or foul) play? Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
It just seems strange like ya know freaky. Now don't get me wrong there were times in the past that I feigned like I was confused and just walked into the ladies room but this goes way beyond something like that.


Laughing

You need to put this in the share three true things about yourself thread. Or maybe in the freakiest waygook one.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7 wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I grew up in the 70's and 80's but never heard about it.
To me it's all a freak show anyway.
In fact, since these loud mouthed American feminists are always screaming about "equality" then why do even women's sports exist?


I don't get your argument. Besides, if sex reassignment surgery gave people an edge in sports, there would be an awful lot more former men competing at the highest level of women's sports, don't you think?


I a way, isn't that what doping is largely about? Basically, 'effing what what your body produces naturally with hormones.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about sports, but it's unfair how good looking some of these trannies are. Some of them are more feminine than real women.
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Drew10



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm honestly more concerned that "she" is 50 years old and playing for a college team.

Sounds like someone is having a pretty intense mid-life crisis.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
12ax7 wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I grew up in the 70's and 80's but never heard about it.
To me it's all a freak show anyway.
In fact, since these loud mouthed American feminists are always screaming about "equality" then why do even women's sports exist?


I don't get your argument. Besides, if sex reassignment surgery gave people an edge in sports, there would be an awful lot more former men competing at the highest level of women's sports, don't you think?


I a way, isn't that what doping is largely about? Basically, 'effing what what your body produces naturally with hormones.


Yeah, but male to female transgenders are taking female hormones and, well, the organs that produce testosterone are gone.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A person who is male, even if taking hormones suppressing testosterone, has years of masculine development in thinking and in physique due to his previous years of masculine levels of exposure to testosterone. For this reason it is simply not justifiable to allow a male who is a transgender female to play on a female athletic team.

Now as far as allowing a female to play on a male team, if the female is good enough, I don't see anything wrong with that. Male sports are higher performance than female sports and if there is a female that can compete in the higher performance arena, then I see that as OK. This is as long as there has been no outside source of drugs given to the female that would increase her athletic ability (unfortunately a requirement sometimes ignored by even male athletes playing in male sports).
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Quack Addict



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude is 6'6" playing against 5 feet something kids. It's like Billy Madison where he goes back to elementary school and starts blasting kids on the playground in dodgeball.

I'm not going to get into the LBGT debate but the fact is this guy played college sports as a man. How is it he can become a woman and then get more years of eligibility? That is one intense desire to chase one's dream of college sports glory?
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy the way Glen Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us we had it made,
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men,
Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state,
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
A person who is male, even if taking hormones suppressing testosterone, has years of masculine development in thinking and in physique due to his previous years of masculine levels of exposure to testosterone. For this reason it is simply not justifiable to allow a male who is a transgender female to play on a female athletic team.


Explain why it isn't more common, then.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need more threads like this...these are the questions that need asking!
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I am a member of Dave's. Think of how boring it would be around here without me.
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