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Idle No More: Protest/Canadians and indigenous populations

 
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:34 pm    Post subject: Idle No More: Protest/Canadians and indigenous populations Reply with quote

http://idlenomore1.blogspot.kr/


A worthy cause?

Have indigenous populations in Canada been mistreated? Are they being mistreated?
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Fox



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Our goal is to use education to build consciousness and awareness in all Canadians on the resurgence of Indigenous sovereignty and environmental protections.


Heh.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Idle No More: Protest/Canadians and indigenous populatio Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Have indigenous populations in Canada been mistreated?


Yes, many times over.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have indigenous populations in Canada been mistreated? Are they being mistreated?


Indeed they have. Indeed they are.

This has a North American context to it however but good on the natives that reside in Canada to fight for their rights.
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Dodge7



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

who cares.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
who cares.


Individuals in possession of conscience.
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The proposed Northern Gateway Pipleline has the potential to make things much worse. Imagine Oka x 100.

(p.s - this probably should be moved to Current Events)
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of the most sacred of Indigenous laws is peaceful resistance when Elders and children are involved and this is what we must follow.



Guess someone forgot to tell the people at Oka and Caledonia.

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Corporal Marcel Lemay was shot by the Mohawks during the raid and died subsequently.



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In other incidents, occupiers were seen to push a car off an overpass and burned a wooden bridge to the ground while using threats to prevent firefighters from intervening (Blatchford 14 November 2009, A2; Blatchford 27 November 2009, A10). Occupiers vandalized nearby property and threatened non-Aboriginal owners. On 9 June, an
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elderly couple was followed and harassed by protestors causing the man to suffer a heart attack. A tv cameraman filming the incident was assaulted (Blatchford 14 November 2009, A2).


While the federal government has definitely fallen down on its end of the bargain...the blame is just as definitely not all theirs. And there is no excuse for terrorism. Peaceful resistance is one thing. Armed occupation and terrorism is quite another.

Personally I'd have cut all aid to the reservations involved in the trouble until they settled down. Peaceful resistance is fine...the second they start picking up guns or attacking a passersby...the money tap is turned off.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
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One of the most sacred of Indigenous laws is peaceful resistance when Elders and children are involved and this is what we must follow.



Guess someone forgot to tell the people at Oka and Caledonia.

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Corporal Marcel Lemay was shot by the Mohawks during the raid and died subsequently.



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In other incidents, occupiers were seen to push a car off an overpass and burned a wooden bridge to the ground while using threats to prevent firefighters from intervening (Blatchford 14 November 2009, A2; Blatchford 27 November 2009, A10). Occupiers vandalized nearby property and threatened non-Aboriginal owners. On 9 June, an
8
elderly couple was followed and harassed by protestors causing the man to suffer a heart attack. A tv cameraman filming the incident was assaulted (Blatchford 14 November 2009, A2).


While the federal government has definitely fallen down on its end of the bargain...the blame is just as definitely not all theirs. And there is no excuse for terrorism. Peaceful resistance is one thing. Armed occupation and terrorism is quite another.

Personally I'd have cut all aid to the reservations involved in the trouble until they settled down. Peaceful resistance is fine...the second they start picking up guns or attacking a passersby...the money tap is turned off.


Not that you're wrong by any means, but I think the issue here would be the long, ugly history of colonists (and their descendants) starving natives into submission.
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