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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:22 am Post subject: |
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People save a lot of money here because they choose to live in a certain way. The poster above is an example. I'm sure he/she drinks soju or Cass and avoids night clubs when they go out out otherwise they simply would not be able to party all the time and save money. it couldn't be done, Similarly people live in tiny flats so they save money on the bills and spend their time hiking or on the internet because there isn't much else to do. If you also consider 'western food' to include things like apples, onions, milk, potatoes, beef etc..prices are the same or more expensive than they are in my own country. Of course if you eat noodles and Bibimbap all the time it'll be cheaper than your own country where you probably ate well. Also people saying they don't have a car here so that's why Korea is good for saving money is not logical. they could have a car here or they could not have a car in their own country. I'm pretty sure petrol (gas) is more expensive here than in the US for example.
The only real way to compare the costs of living would be to pay a student in a Western country two thousand dollars a month, on top of their accommodation, and tell them to live as they normally would, then compare how much they had at the end of the month with a teacher in Korea. As that is how most NETs seem to live here. For most it's the next stage from living like a student with no money to living like a student with money followed by going back to their own country and ,hopefully, trying to live like a grown up with money.
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
People save a lot of money here because they choose to live in a certain way. The poster above is an example. I'm sure he/she drinks soju or Cass and avoids night clubs when they go out out otherwise they simply would not be able to party all the time and save money. it couldn't be done, Similarly people live in tiny flats so they save money on the bills and spend their time hiking or on the internet because there isn't much else to do. If you also consider 'western food' to include things like apples, onions, milk, potatoes, beef etc..prices are the same or more expensive than they are in my own country. Of course if you eat noodles and Bibimbap all the time it'll be cheaper than your own country where you probably ate well. Also people saying they don't have a car here so that's why Korea is good for saving money is not logical. they could have a car here or they could not have a car in their own country. I'm pretty sure petrol (gas) is more expensive here than in the US for example.
The only real way to compare the costs of living would be to pay a student in a Western country two thousand dollars a month, on top of their accommodation, and tell them to live as they normally would, then compare how much they had at the end of the month with a teacher in Korea. As that is how most NETs seem to live here. |
A rare time where I actually agree with Edward. Two million won a month in Korea is enough for most English teachers to save money. While this amount of money isn't a bad salary, most teachers are able to save because they live fairly frugal lifestyles here, eating cheap food, drinking cheap alcohol, and spending a lot of time at home in their tiny apartments watching movies they downloaded from the Internet. It's not necessary a bad lifestyle, but it certainly isn't lavish, either. If you want to have a car, live in a multi-bedroom apartment, eat out at nice restaurants, cook Western-style meals, and the like, a two million won a month salary would just barely be adequate. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Is the money in Korea laughable? How do you guys do it? |
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I just signed my contract to start teaching at Public school in March. It will be my first time in Korea, and I am going for a change of pace, and for personal growth. I am not going to Korea to get rich or make a lot of money.
Having said that...how do guys in Korea survive on 2 million Won a month?..Since I'm Canadian I did the Canadian conversion, and it worked out to 22,000 dollars a year. Yeah, I know you can put severance pay, and a return flight on top of that, as well as a small apartment but that is works out to...we'll not much. Since I'm Canadian I am also taxed on worldwide income, unlike other nationalities.
For years I've been hearing about the oodles of money people make in Korea teaching English...maybe there are just fables, or people working against terms of their contract..
How do you guys survive and save the thousands I hear people boasting on this forum?
I'm glad I'm only going for a year...I'm sure I'll enjoy Korea, but I can't afford to work there.
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EXPAT... non resident. Korean income is NOT taxable in Canada under a bilateral tax treaty (unless of course you left and are supporting a wife and kids at home, have a house or apartment in your name, healthcare remains valid and you still have your car).
It might only covert to CAD $22k per anum but your actual living expenses boil down to internet, electric and food. Your biggest bill (30% of your income at home) housing is taken care of for you.
Unless you are a spendthrift / profligate and living it large in Seoul it is hard not to SAVE in excess of $12k per year (you won't be doing that at home with any job fresh out of uni).
Gotta luv newbies... like new puppies...
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I find 12k hard to believe..you must have to live like a monk to save that much. You forgot other expenses like a cell phone plan, gym membership, etc.
It seems to me that Korea might only be for the new graduate...22-27, but for others who have made decent money in the job market before...we'll its a bit of a reality check.
Even Japan Eikaiwas are paying more! |
OP don't hurt yourself reading this but...you have no rent/morgage to pay, no car payments (or gas or car insurance), you do NOT have to pay income tax on your Korean income and the income tax rate in Korea is abysmally low compared to Canada. As a single teacher you can easily save 10000 -12000 CAD in one year AND live an active lifestyle.
If you are an older applicant and have made a higher income in Canada you may find the salary is a drop. Then again, your hard expenses pretty much just vanished (rent, car...).
Of course if you intend on hitting the bars 2-3 nights a week, you will not save much money. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Why no car payments? Maybe you'll decide you want to have a car, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll decide to have a Korean girlfriend who wants a Louis Vitton handbag every month, or maybe you won't. Can you say that Canada is a cheaper place to live because you won't have a Korean girlfriend that wants to go shopping for accessories in Coex every weekend? These are lifestyle choices, No way to compare the cost of living. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| I would be surprised if you could find a better starting deal unless you graduated with a Bachelors in Business from Harvard. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps the question is, what are you going to spend $2,000 on per month?
$300 food
$150 utilities
$100 phone
$100 clothes
$250 entertainment
Maintain something around that and you're saving around $1,000 per month, plus $2,000 completion bonus, plus ~$1,000 pension refund. Throw in a nice vacation in an inexpensive Asian country and you'll still save over $12k |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| no car payments (or gas or car insurance), |
Why no car payments? Maybe you'll decide you want to have a car, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll decide to have a Korean girlfriend who wants a Louis Vitton handbag every month, or maybe you won't. Can you say that Canada is a cheaper place to live because you won't have a Korean girlfriend that wants to go shopping for accessories in Coex every weekend? These are lifestyle choices, No way to compare the cost of living. |
For one year?
I suppose its possible but unless the OP lands in a rural town why would he or she need a car?
As for comparable costs...from what I see having lived in each place: it compares but we have 2 kids and different needs/expenses.
As a single teacher in Korea for a year, I for one would not want or need a car. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: |
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If you are only planning on one year, you probably will have to pay taxes back home. (at least that's what they'll tell you)
I'm sure there are some creative yet legal ways around this but you'll
need to do some homework.
It doesn't seem worth it for only 1 year. |
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kabrams

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Location: your Dad's house
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I did not "save" at all, but at the end of my stay in Korea, I had over $5,000 left. With an actual plan, I think I could have gotten close to $8,000. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone's situation is different but if you can cook and you can control your drinking there are many ways to save money. Budgeting and maturity are the keys. Some people can make big bank and blow it all and others can save even on a much smaller budget. If you're worried about increasing your earning power then ask for some extra classes at your school. But if you can't control your spending then you will end up with nothing at the end of every month. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Is the money in Korea laughable? How do you guys do it? |
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| plan b wrote: |
I just signed my contract to start teaching at Public school in March. It will be my first time in Korea, and I am going for a change of pace, and for personal growth. I am not going to Korea to get rich or make a lot of money.
Having said that...how do guys in Korea survive on 2 million Won a month?..Since I'm Canadian I did the Canadian conversion, and it worked out to 22,000 dollars a year. Yeah, I know you can put severance pay, and a return flight on top of that, as well as a small apartment but that is works out to...we'll not much. Since I'm Canadian I am also taxed on worldwide income, unlike other nationalities.
For years I've been hearing about the oodles of money people make in Korea teaching English...maybe there are just fables, or people working against terms of their contract..
How do you guys survive and save the thousands I hear people boasting on this forum?
I'm glad I'm only going for a year...I'm sure I'll enjoy Korea, but I can't afford to work there.
Any thoughts? |
What Ttompatz said and also the info you heard was probably outdated from a few years ago. Money can still be made here but not as much as before the crash. I got here near the end of the curve. Still kicking myself over not coming here a couple of years earlier. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| no car payments (or gas or car insurance), |
Why no car payments? Maybe you'll decide you want to have a car, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll decide to have a Korean girlfriend who wants a Louis Vitton handbag every month, or maybe you won't. Can you say that Canada is a cheaper place to live because you won't have a Korean girlfriend that wants to go shopping for accessories in Coex every weekend? These are lifestyle choices, No way to compare the cost of living. |
Anyone who ends up with a K girlfriend like that and keeps her is a dope. Get a pretty one that doesn't think like that.... |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Many probably come here having had a pampered upbringing and have no idea how most normal people live, then spend all of their money on unnecessary luxuries and complain that we are paid a pittance that is impossible to live on. Maybe the OP falls into that category |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:19 am Post subject: |
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People can save here because they are forced to live within their means.
If Korea took away the free, crappy apt most teachers get, then it would be an instant turn off for most people thinking of coming over. Because of this schools and academy's are able to keep wages low. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Not every job provides free housing.
Not all pension refunds are the same. Ex. National verses Private plan.
Not all jobs provide free airfare.
Not all jobs pay severence.
This thread is filled with a lot generalizations and assumptions that are simply not true for everyone. |
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