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missty
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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| It would be really hard for me to make the decision to leave, especially as I'd be leaving behind my boyfriend of two years. Saying that, if the British embassy packed up and left and if they advised that we leave, then I would be inclined to take their advice. |
yeah, i can see how that conversation would pan out later...
"hi, im back!"
"?"
"lets pick up where we left off!"
"but you left me here to die"
"yes, but im back now because my embassy advised me its safe!"
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Well, he actually told me that he wants me to leave if it becomes too dangerous. He obviously doesn't want me living in a warzone. He said he'd stay to be with his family and I'd go until it became safe again. Personally though I couldn't imagine anything worse than going and worrying about him every day. Which is why I said 'inclined' and was not certain. Maybe I'd stay, maybe I'd go. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that! |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Show some frickin sand people. Until the bombs start falling and the Nork robo-troopers come pouring through, stay cool.
Unless you live on an island with the word (disputed) in parenthesis under it, or maybe Paju or something, even then not really, but there at least is the chance of some artillery or whatnot. If you're in Gwangju or Busan and thinking about running, don't be an idiot. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Show some frickin sand people. Until the bombs start falling and the Nork robo-troopers come pouring through, stay cool.
Unless you live on an island with the word (disputed) in parenthesis under it, or maybe Paju or something, even then not really, but there at least is the chance of some artillery or whatnot. If you're in Gwangju or Busan and thinking about running, don't be an idiot. |
You can talk about how unlikely things are to degenerate here all you want, but deriding people's choice when it comes to their personal decisions about how much risk they are comfortable with is juvenile.
Stick to your books and numbers, it's what your good at. Bravado doesn't fit you well.
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Two Americans at Gwangju Highschools have left in the past 3 days according to a Korean teacher I know. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^Some teachers leave for other reasons, maybe the schools suck, or maybe they didn't want to be here for other reasons. |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| ^^Some teachers leave for other reasons, maybe the schools suck, or maybe they didn't want to be here for other reasons. |
Granted. But she was saying this during a conversation about NK and teacher's reactions to it. I also heard second hand from the Canadian co-ordinator in that area. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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You can talk about how unlikely things are to degenerate here all you want, but deriding people's choice when it comes to their personal decisions about how much risk they are comfortable with is juvenile.
Stick to your books and numbers, it's what your good at. Bravado doesn't fit you well.
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Sorry, but it's fair game like fan death. If you're in Gwangju and you're freaking out and about to move back when nothing has even happened yet, then yeah, chill out.
Look, if someone's leaving because they live in Paju or Yeongpyeong, I wouldn't judge or comment. If someone is leaving because the exchange rate is going down the crapper, fine. If someone is leaving because they are a Korean from overseas and might get thrown back in the army, fine.
This isn't bravado. If I rounds start falling around me I'm probably going to cry like a little girl or run scared. But it hasn't gotten to the point or even close to it.
And anyways it may even be riskier for their health if they flee.
An article on Slate talked about Fukushima and refugees and while yes, there was a mild increase in the risk of cancer with long-term exposure, plenty of people who fled the area are suffering with problems more likely to kill them- poverty, alcoholism, going back to smoking, stress, bad family environment, weight gain, etc.
Uprooting your life suddenly or splitting up your family and potentially suffering a significant loss of income could be far more dangerous to your life-expectancy than sticking it out.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/04/fukushima_evacuation_some_people_are_safer_in_a_fallout_zone_than_as_refugees.html
The bottom line is that there is nothing motivating these people except irrational fear. My advice would be to stick around and confront that irrational fear. It would probably do them wonders. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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I say stay. It could be the adventure of a lifetime, one that 30 years from now, you'll wish you had ridden it out.
Plus, I think there would benefits to the bravery required to stay and see it through. There's a reason many people who live through war find themselves at a whole new level than before. |
lol. I'll be sure to remind my grandmothers how lucky they are to have experienced two wars. |
I know the stupidity of it, but there's a certain truth about it.
At the end of the day, I don't think I could pass up on the chance to live through history. |
yes, actually. that is an incredibly stupid (as well as ignorant) thing to say.
Do you think being in a war zone is just like reading one of your books or watching the history channel in your y-fronts scratching your balls?
You think its fun watching your mates (or family) getting killed? or being a fecking nervous wreck because every little noise sounds like its someone taking a shot at you?
I usually ignore your diatribe but this is going too far mate. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| le-paul wrote: |
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I say stay. | | | | | | |
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