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itiswhatitis
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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:38 am Post subject: Korea's frusterating lack of whole grains....bread delivery? |
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Hopefully when I make a visit to Korea as an old man they will FINALLY be eating more whole grains. Some of the E-Marts have recently started selling oatmeal, Costco has Oatmeal and Whole Grain Roman bread (IF you live near a Costco) and I've seen Whole Grain Roman Bread and Oatmeal at Lotte and Hyandai department stores (if you happen to live near one). Whole grains seem to be considered somewhat of a luxery item that are catered to wealthy and educated Koreans who are likely to have lived/studied abroad. In Canada/America etc whole grains are pretty much standard at any somewhat respectable supermarket.
For oatmeal and whole grain pasta I order from Iherb but what about for whole grain bread? There must be a bakery that sells whole grain bread and that will deliver. I'm thinking of getting a few loaves at a time (my fridge has a descent sized frezer to freeze the bread).
Any suggestions for getting whole grain bread delivered?
I live in Yongin btw.
As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? Smoking rates have dropped signifincantly in the past decades, gyms are ubiquitous in most neighbourhoods and they have first rate internet and public transportation.
My theory: whole grains would be replacing something that is considered Korean whereas things like smart phones and gyms are adding and not replacing. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Many Paris Baguette outlets offer a solid loaf of sourdough rye & there are health food stores here & there with organic whole grain bread. Seek & ye shall find. (This from a town much smaller than Yongin.) |
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nicwr2002
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| It is because rice is the staple food here not bread. Bread is considered a snack here. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Korea's frusterating lack of whole grains....bread deliv |
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| itiswhatitis wrote: |
| Hopefully when I make a visit to Korea as an old man they will FINALLY be eating more whole grain. |
I think that Korea would be better off not embracing whole grain propaganda.
"It’s all nonsense, of course, but whole grain propaganda is still annoyingly pervasive. Even educated people who should know better still fall hook line and sinker for the totally unfounded whole grain health claims. Recently, I received an email from one Jane Karlsson, PhD, vigorously asserting that whole grains were wonderfully healthy foods that could immensely benefit humankind. I wrote back and told Jane she was wrong and challenged her to back her assertions with some real clinical evidence. The following exchange is reprinted below."
http://anthonycolpo.com/the-whole-grain-scam/ |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| You can get popcorn almost anywhere... |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
| Many Paris Baguette outlets offer a solid loaf of sourdough rye & there are health food stores here & there with organic whole grain bread. Seek & ye shall find. (This from a town much smaller than Yongin.) |
Yeah, I see Whole wheat in every single Tous Les Jours, Paris Baguette, and every department store bakery I've shopped in.
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If you shop after 6-7pm, however, you run a great risk of it being sold out. |
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Deja
Joined: 18 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think you'd be better off buying a normal bag og OATS (they are awesome at E-Mart!) or whole rice or something similar. I like oats, and was looking for them before anything else, so I didn't check everything they have, even though I had years to do that 
Korea is not accepting bread in general... 12 years ago, all I could find, with an amaizing translator, was just some sweet corn bread (and as someone who ate WHITE bread until that point, I couldn't stomach any of it, and it was a great point in life, where I literally stopped eating breads  ).
Korea had a campaign to reduce the consumption of rice, as a catalist for diabetes. And they aren't going for whole rice, because it takes longer to cook. That's what I was told by another good translator.
Works for me, though. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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As an aside.......(and I don't mean to take a shot at Korea).....why are Koreans so slow to start eating whole grains? Any thoughts? Smoking rates have dropped signifincantly in the past decades, gyms are ubiquitous in most neighbourhoods and they have first rate internet and public transportation.
My theory: whole grains would be replacing something that is considered Korean whereas things like smart phones and gyms are adding and not replacing.
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My theory, not resenting people for what their culture eats and not expecting them to change their dietary habits in order to make YOU happy (in other words these people don't exist in order to make you happy), and changing that whole attitude will be far more beneficial to your stress levels, and thereby your overall health than any bowl of oatmeal.
You know what Koreans (and other immigrants) do overseas when they can't find something? They either grow it or they find the base ingredients and prepare it from scratch. They don't whine that the local Ralph's or Kroger's or Aldi doesn't carry Korean food X. Do the same. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
My theory, not resenting people for what their culture eats and not expecting them to change their dietary habits in order to make YOU happy (in other words these people don't exist in order to make you happy), and changing that whole attitude will be far more beneficial to your stress levels, and thereby your overall health than any bowl of oatmeal.
You know what Koreans (and other immigrants) do overseas when they can't find something? They either grow it or they find the base ingredients and prepare it from scratch. They don't whine that the local Ralph's or Kroger's or Aldi doesn't carry Korean food X. Do the same. |
They usually just box up a bunch of crap and take it with them or have it sent by relatives? |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
My theory, not resenting people for what their culture eats and not expecting them to change their dietary habits in order to make YOU happy (in other words these people don't exist in order to make you happy), and changing that whole attitude will be far more beneficial to your stress levels, and thereby your overall health than any bowl of oatmeal.
You know what Koreans (and other immigrants) do overseas when they can't find something? They either grow it or they find the base ingredients and prepare it from scratch. They don't whine that the local Ralph's or Kroger's or Aldi doesn't carry Korean food X. Do the same. |
Wow dont bust an artery.
He was obviously asking why Koreans aren't adopting more healthy grains that don't involve heavy processing since Koreans are showing more awareness and attention to healthier practices; not asking for changes to make him happy.
As usual, you respond with a poor comparison. Koreans abroad get their stuff shipped over if it's not available. Fortunately, most other countries offer a wider variety of choices so it's less of a problem. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| I know that my in-laws have pretty much given up white rice for a "mixed" rice instead (not exactly sure what's in there, but it looks like husks, beans, and other stuff). |
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drydell
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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It's cos Koreans associate bread with cake..
Whereas we would mostly think of bread more like rice- a staple savoury starch. Koreans have put it in the sugary dessert category - because... Err well I don't know - maybe cos it's western so it must have lots of sugar in it. That's why so much of the bread here is crap.. Buttery sugary stuff.. Sugar on garlic bread etc...
Good news is I think it's about to change- great new selection of fresh whole wheat breads in my Homeplus arrived recently... |
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Epuhnee
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Return Jones
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
As usual, you respond with a poor comparison. Koreans abroad get their stuff shipped over if it's not available. Fortunately, most other countries offer a wider variety of choices so it's less of a problem. |
If I want Korean stuff back home I either have to go to the Korean grocery or make do with a small rack of crappiness at the local Kroger or Ralph's. Sorry for a great many ethnicities out there they either use local ingredients and prepare things from scratch and trade them within their community OR they start an ethnic grocery. For Koreans in big cities, there is usually a Korean grocery. For those in small towns, you either have some stuff shipped or you make a once a month 6 hour car ride somewhere.
What they don't do is whine about how Americans aren't eating like them and upset that the local grocery store doesn't stock item X. They don't feel entitled to it. There is a world of difference in attitude between a person who asks "Where can I find whole grain products" vs. "Why aren't the people here into whole grains? When will they FINALLY eat more?" There is something in the attitude of the writer of the second sentence that suggests entitlement and a belief that the people of Korea exist to make him happy. |
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