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Kentucky's Argument Against Gay Marriage Recognition
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trueblue



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That war has been fought.



Indeed it has...but..as historians are now paying attention to another narrative of the war, in which case...was....religion.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Indeed it has...but..as historians are now paying attention to another narrative of the war, in which case...was....religion.


I was hoping someone would chime in, on that one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trueblue wrote:
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Indeed it has...but..as historians are now paying attention to another narrative of the war, in which case...was....religion.


I was hoping someone would chime in, on that one.


Please don't derail my thread. Feel free to make a new one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Kentucky's Argument Against Gay Marriage Recognition Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
In February, 2014, Judge John G. Heyburn II of the Federal Western District of Kentucky struck down a portion of Kentucky's ban on gay couples in relation to the State's official recognition of gays married in other states.

Kentucky's Attorney General Jack Conway (D) refused to appeal the decision.

Governor Steve Beshear hired outside counsel to appeal the decision.

Now, the State of Kentucky has revealed its argument against the recognition of out-of-state marriages for gay couples.

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"Kentucky's marriage laws are rationally related to the state's interest of preserving the traditional man-woman marriage model," the appeal reads. According to the state, the case for legalizing same-sex marriage in Kentucky is different from Loving v. Virginia—the landmark 1967 Supreme Court case that invalidated state laws banning interracial marriage—because "man-man and woman-woman couples cannot procreate" and Kentucky has an interest in encouraging procreation in the name of promoting "long-term economic stability through stable birth rates."

The state claims that marriage benefits cost the state money, and stable birth rates offset that cost. However, the appeal does not cite any research supporting this, nor does it provide any evidence that legalizing same-sex marriage decreases the birth rate. The appeal does not mention the economic impact of same-sex couples having children through alternative means, such as artificial insemination, nor does it address the costs to the state of allowing infertile heterosexual men or women to get married, allowing straight couples who don't want children to get married, or housing foster children. (In 2012, Kentucky had almost 7,000 children in foster care, according to the latest government data.)


What a truly absurd argument.

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"Kentucky already has a problem with perception throughout the country of being backward and ultra-conservative," notes Bourke, the plaintiff in the case. "Here was an opportunity for a Democratic governor to make a progressive move, and he chose to bow to political pressure instead."


Mark Twain has it attributed to him best:

Mark Twain wrote:
I want to be in Kentucky when the end of the world comes, because it's always 20 years behind


3% of the US is gay....
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FriendlyDaegu



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Kentucky's Argument Against Gay Marriage Recognition Reply with quote

lithium wrote:


3% of the US is gay....


Higher than that, I'd guess. Wikipedia says 3.8% self-identify, but if you look up the percentage of porn streamed that is gay porn, it's something like 4.5%. PornHub comes out with interesting data periodically.. I remember their report on gay porn watching by state. The bible belt loves the stuff.
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