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Titus



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique
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never mind that Jews are drawn from practically every race on earth


Jews are a distinct ethnic group and genetic testing can differentiate them from other ethnic groups.

Chaparrastique
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They spend triple the amount on Afghanistan. You're ok with that?


No.

Chaparrastique
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I have also seen figures showing greater spending on south korea than on Israel. No objections from you?


Much objection. You'll not be able to play this game with me.

trueblue
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"Race" is nothing but a social construct theory that has been debunked by both science and anthropology


No. The above is as ridiculous as the flat earth theory.

None of this has anything to do with Gaza so I'm not posting about the above again.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titus wrote:
Israel has a genetic-based immigration system.


If that were true, they would have let in over 90% of the Palestinians - who are in fact the descendants of Jews that were forced to convert to Islam.


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90 percent of all Palestinians are descended from the Jews. Not only that, many Palestinians retain Jewish customs, including mourning rituals, lighting Shabbat or memorial candles and even wearing tefillin. While the common wisdom among many Israelis is that the group that calls itself "Palestinian" is a motley collection of Arabs from various parts of the Middle East who immigrated to the Land of Israel following the employment opportunities provided by Jews, Misinai says that the vast majority of today's Palestinians are descended from the remnants of Jewish families who managed to avoid being deported over the past 2,000 years, or returned to their lands after they were exiled, as the Jews in the Holy Land suffered blow after blow - from the Roman destruction of the Temple to the Crusades to famine, poverty and war throughout the Middle Ages. One thing many were unable to avoid, however, was converting to Islam

In 2001, Human Immunology magazine published a genetic study conducted by Prof. Antonio Arnez-Vilna, a Spanish researcher from the University of Complutense in Madrid, who discovered that the immune systems of the Jews and the Palestinians are extremely close to one another in a way that almost absolutely demonstrates a similar genetic identity.

a 2002 test by Tel Aviv University researchers, determined that only two groups in the world - Ashkenazi Jews and Palestinians - were genetically susceptible to an inherited deafness syndrome. All the studies he cites in his book, says Misinai, show that "the Palestinians are genetically much closer to Ashkenazi Jews than they are to the Arabs."
http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Features/The-lost-Palestinian-Jews

http://riverscrap.typepad.com/home/2009/08/oy-vey-90-of-palestinians-have-jewish-heritage.html
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Biblethumper



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Previously many on the Left were disputing Israel's claim that Hamas was behind the kidnap of the three Jewish youths.

Reuters (August 21, 2014)
"On Wednesday, a top Hamas official said members of his militant group kidnapped three Israeli teenagers whose deaths in June provoked a spiral of violence that led to the war in Gaza, the first acknowledgement of the movement’s involvement.
Hamas, which controls Gaza, has up to now refused to confirm or deny Israeli accusations that it masterminded the abduction and killing of the three young men, one of them a joint U.S.-Israeli citizen, in Hebron.
“There was much speculation about this operation, some said it was a conspiracy,” Saleh al-Arouri told delegates at the International Union of Islamic Scholars in Istanbul, according to a recording of the meeting posted online by organizers.
“The popular will was exercised throughout our occupied land, and culminated in the heroic operation by the Qassam Brigades in imprisoning the three settlers in Hebron,” he said, referring to Hamas’s armed wing.
“This was an operation from your brothers in Qassam undertaken to aid their brothers on hunger strike in (Israeli) prisons,” he added.
Jewish seminary students Eyal Yifrach, 19, and Gilad Shaer and Naftali Fraenkel, both 16, were abducted while hitchiking in the Israeli occupied West Bank on June 12 and killed."
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chickenpie



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite killing so many innocent women and children and targeting civilian infrastructure Israel has still managed to lose.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-lost-war-gaza-struggle-justice-goes

"Israel lost

As I have noted before, if “victory” is measured in the number of civilians an army kills and injures, or the number of homes, hospitals, mosques or schools it destroys, Israel is the clear champion once again.

By that standard, the United States spectacularly “won” its wars in Vietnam and Iraq.

But in terms of the political and strategic balance sheet that will determine future relations between Israel and the Palestinians, Israel suffered a clear loss on the battlefield and internationally.

At a basic level, Israel has made concessions to Palestinians that it was not even willing to discuss before its escalation and bombardment.

A month ago, I argued that Israel was being defeated in Gaza as it was in Lebanon in 2006.

That assessment stands. It’s an assessment that can now be found in Israel’s mainstream media. Haaretz diplomatic correspondent Barak Ravid was scathing, writing that Netanyahu “saw his chance to run away from Gaza, and he took it.”

“The Egyptian cease-fire proposal that Israel accepted on Tuesday did not deliver a single achievement,” Ravid wrote, and actually represented a “regression” from Israel’s position before the war.

Ravid explains: “That regression is encapsulated in the 69 Israeli fatalities, 2,000 Palestinian fatalities, the bulk of them innocent civilians, thousands of projectiles on the communities in the south, hundreds of missiles on the center of the country, deserted communities, the loss of trust in the IDF [Israeli army] and the government among the residents of the south, economic damage amounting to billions and diplomatic and PR damage that is impossible to quantify.”

Israel’s limited invasion of Gaza early on in its assault was met with fierce resistance.

Dozens of Israeli soldiers were killed in battles with well-prepared and courageous Palestinian fighters.

The heavy losses convinced Israeli military leaders that total reoccupation of Gaza would entail further losses it could not bear. "
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