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South Korea Prepares For the Worst ...
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oatmeal wrote:
Have a look at the topic of "American Militarism".
That might help balance the context. I don't think most people realize
here that North Korea is acting out of self-protection and they feel that
America is the one who is and always has been planning an invasion.
Unsurprisingly, America and their media machine have turned it around
and made it sound like America is being victimized and NK is being the aggressor.

Anyone remember what America did to the Marshall Islands and the people living there and their 67 nuclear tests?
Some links:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/02/bikini-atoll-nuclear-test-60-years?CMP=share_btn_fb

Prof. in University of Guam and writer from Hawaii on American Militarism as being the cause for the current problems around the world including North Korean issue:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/09/bases-okinawa-guam-nuclear-targets-170906121731012.html


So much sunshine in this post, that I put on shades. Cool

More seriously, oatmeal has a point. The United States dropped more payloads on Korea during the war than it did on Europe during World War II.

That said, North Korea is still a rogue regime. Their conduct is still provocative. You can look beyond NATO to find condemnation of their nuclear testing.

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/north-korea-conducts-biggest-ever-nuclear-test-heres-how-international-community-reacted-4826972/
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Rteacher



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Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article argues that the U.S. should have long since pressured China to stop helping NK via money-laundering through its banks (before it's reached a state where war seems at least probable if not inevitable ...)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/war-with-north-korea-starts-to-look-inevitable/ar-AAs6MNh?li=AA4Zpp&ocid=spartandhp
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump's machismo speech at the UN, threatening to "totally destroy" North Korea among other ill-conceived strategies to stop "loser terrorists" did nothing to advance the cause of peace (or intelligence ...) http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-united-nations-general-assembly-speech-20170919-story.html
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than wipe NK off the map, they could wait till the next parade in Pyongyong and also target the border areas where the artillery are.

The games over. Nobody is going to sit back and let the North Koreans target Los Angeles if they can't have their own way with South Korea or Japan.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're probably right, but I don't think Seoul could be spared from massive casualties ... https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-piles-economic-sanctions-against-north-korea-074857664--politics.html
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some experts think war with NK is "more likely ... than ever" - which is really bad since we've already had a war with them ... https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-likely-war-north-korea-172606117.html
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, highlighted some diplomatic channels that were still open with North Korea, Blunderer-in-Chief Trump quickly stomped out any sparks of hope along those lines ... http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353359-trump-undermines-tillerson-with-north-korea-comments

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2017/10/trump_undermines_tillerson_on_north_korea_who_actually_speaks_for_u_s_foreign.html
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geldedgoat



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump is right on this. Negotiations may still save the peninsula from further conflict, but not with the North; the ideology keeping the Kim regime in power prevents any sort of compromise with the outside, non-Korean world. Instead, China and Russia are the ones who must be brought to the table. Trump appears to have the ability to walk his foot back out of his mouth to work with China, but I don't know if the belligerent Left has beaten the phantom horse of 'Russian election meddling' beyond any hope of reconciliation.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, after noting the evident failure of negotiations, Trump stated that "only one thing will work with North Korea"... Presumably, that would be the actual use of overpowering military force - which would surely result in massive casualties - or (ideally) using the credible threat of military action to pressure China to stop providing vital support to NK - which might work, but is a dangerous strategy with a (hot) head honcho like Trump, who seems inclined to quickly resort to nuclear weapons to get decisive military victory irrespective of the human costs involved ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-case-for-brinksmanship-with-north-korea/2017/10/06/f8f93da8-a958-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html
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