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scott
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Blyth and Jimmy Dore are liberals who see through the main stream media's propaganda. Check them out on YouTube. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Russia's relation to this topic about the current Korean crisis I think mainly has to do with how much imminent jeopardy Trump senses from the Mueller investigation. Since he's obviously crazy (and guilty of obstructing justice) I think he'll resort to using nukes - even at the cost of horrendous collateral damage - to provide a massive distraction, dominate the news cycle - and declare martial law at home if necessary to keep his opponents at bay - the Constitution be damned. (And if he/we survive that and his removal from power becomes seriously threatened again, he'll bomb Iran, set up concentration camps and do whatever it takes to maintain his grand delusions...)
Russia says it's preparing for the outbreak of war on the Korean peninsula in he event that diplomatic efforts fail, but since the U.S. State Department has essentially been gutted - and Trump sees himself as a super tough guy - I don't think there's much chance of that ...
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-preparing-war-north-korea-says-putins-top-security-adviser-728048 |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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One prominent Republican Senator, Lindsay Graham, says it's time for families of military personnel stationed in South Korea to start moving out of there as "North Korea pushes the U.S. closer to a military conflict" (although Trump's provocative tweets haven't exactly helped pave the way to peace ...) |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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geldedgoat wrote: |
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A notable exception might be the likes of Glen Greenwald? |
Absolutely, though do you really not agree that he's notable because he is an exception? I try to be diligent about keeping a range of news sources, and with, again, the exception of Greenwald's Intercept, not only does no other "Leftish" outlet push back against the Russian hysteria, but they all have seemingly done their damnedest to make sure images of the KGB are conjured whenever Trump's name is mentioned. |
I think Scott just mentioned two other individuals that "push back against the Russian hysteria." That said, I really have a problem grasping exactly what you mean by vague terms such as "belligerent Left" or "Russian hysteria." I think I could understand how Glenn Greenwald would characterize it, because he has written a lot about it. Notably, Glenn Greenwald has avoided staking an ultimate position on the Mueller investigations. Is that included in "Russian hysteria?" Or is Russian hysteria merely all the crazy and implausible stories of Russian intervention "into our power supply?" It is hard to tell what you mean.
With reference to the Leftists you listed above, I only recognize Dean O and The Young Turks. I do not care about Dean O. The Young Turks does not display "Russian hysteria." They do cover revelations in the Mueller investigations. I think The Young Turks has covered the double-standard between Uranium One and the Mueller investigations quite well. Indeed, here is DailyKos blasting Cenk Uyger for being soft.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/30/1648739/-The-Young-Turks-Just-Got-Hilariously-Owned-By-A-Woman-On-Russia
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The minimization of Russian influence on our elections by the Young Turks has been rather interesting, with journalists like Michael Tracey who pooh-poohs the impact of Russian interference in our elections. He decided to troll a bunch of protestors to trick them into downplaying Russia’s impact, but got completely owned by a woman who was far much more knowledgeable than he was.
The video of this is a MUST-SEE for anyone fighting back against Russia’s continued interference into our elections, as actually confirmed today in a live Senate intelligence hearing. |
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I’d tell journalists like Michael Tracey, Cenk Uygur, and others on the far left to actually watch the Senate hearings that just happened [in March] that confirmed that Russian active measures are still going on |
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It does us no favors at all when Russian interference into our elections is ignored or minimized by those on the far left because the people they serve need to know that they may be the target of continued active measures. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Cenk Uygur's has also minimized the Armenian Genocide ... and there is a lot more evidence to spur on the Mueller investigation then there is for a Uranium One investigation. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/us/politics/uranium-one-hillary-clinton.html
I think most liberals who doubt there was collusion with Russia by Trump's campaign do so on the grounds that no one in the Trump campaign seems bright enough to pull it off ... |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Rteacher
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing major is going to happen. Kim Jung Un knows one thing A full scale or even a fairly medium sized war will end the state. He doesn't have the resources to wage war for too long (without Chinese or Russian intervention and even then) for too long.
As odious as Trump is, he actually may be a plus in this. Kim has relied on a reputation for being crazy to extract concessions, etc. Trump now has that reputation. For the first time, NK will be facing an American president who is just 'stupid' enough to make a military strike against them. And if they respond too severely it will escalate out of control to their detriment.
My guess is before it gets even that far, a war would become null and void because generals internally would form a coup. Picture "Game of Thrones' and the Mad King. One of these Generals will do a 'Jamie Lannister' on Kim. |
Well, Trump credits his tough/crazy talk (along with tougher sanctions) for bringing North Korea to the negotiating table in time for the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/world/asia/north-korea-south-olympics-border-talks.html
http://time.com/5087507/doanld-trump-north-korea-talks-tweet/ |
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TL
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:53 am Post subject: |
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North Korean officials believe that the US will eventually conduct a pre-emptive strike.
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In mid-November 2017, I spent several days in Pyongyang talking to DPRK foreign ministry officials about the prospects of war between North Korea and the United States. These were sobering discussions. All of my interlocutors made it clear that while North Korea does not want war, it will not hide from it either. These officials feared that the US was already trying to shape the battlefield for a military operation against the North, and that South Koreans do not seem to have grasped the reality that the Trump administration is set on a course for preventive war. However, Pyongyang is extremely serious about this scenario and is not bluffing when it says that “only one question remains: when will war break out?” In this respect, our counterparts emphasized that “our soldiers have long been sleeping without removing their boots.” |
http://www.38north.org/2018/01/avorontsov011018/ |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Rteacher
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Well, after Trump's bringing in hardliner/war hawk John Bolton as his Sec. of Defense, a first-strike on North Korea by the U.S. seems much more likely - since Bolton has advocated for it...
And recently appointed Sec. of State Mike Pompeo has also called for regime change in North Korea, so there's definitely reason to fear that war could be imminent (probably with NK first and then Iran later ...) |
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Rteacher
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Rteacher
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Trump cancelled the summit - some analysts think he did it because he thought North Korea was about to cancel it, and he wanted to beat them to it.
Other factors are discussed here ... http://www.newsweek.com/five-reasons-trump-cancelled-north-korea-summit-kim-jong-un-943060
South Korea's President Moon (who reportedly wasn't consulted or warned about the cancellation) will no doubt continue to push for a summit to help stave off a catastrophic war. |
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