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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
>. Spooky.


Not as spooky as that fascist Jeff Rense. His supporters outside the US ought to to be banned from the US, and they the US needs to use the Patriot act against him and his supporters in the US.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
igotthisguitar wrote:
>. Spooky.


Not as spooky as that fascist Jeff Rense. His supporters outside the US ought to to be banned from the US, and they the US needs to use the Patriot act against him and his supporters in the US.


hmmmm, you mean break down his door at 3 in the morning?

Or arrest him for something? What, btw?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the object of Jeff Rense and his supporters is to take advantage of the 9-11 tragedys by creating disorder. It is nothing more than enemy propaganda. That is not allowed during war time.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
the object of Jeff Rense and his supporters is to take advantage of the 9-11 tragedys by creating disorder. It is nothing more than enemy propaganda. That is not allowed during war time.

Right. But things like this are ...

1) How the Patriot Act Compares to Hitler's Ermachtigungsgesetz (Enabling Act)

http://www.furnitureforthepeople.com/actpat.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=enabling+hitler+patriot+act
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
the object of Jeff Rense and his supporters is to take advantage of the 9-11 tragedys by creating disorder. It is nothing more than enemy propaganda. That is not allowed during war time.

Right. But things like this are ...

1) How the Patriot Act Compares to Hitler's Ermachtigungsgesetz (Enabling Act)

http://www.furnitureforthepeople.com/actpat.htm


from a guy who uses holocaust deniers like the American Free Press

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=enabling+hitler+patriot+act



http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html

Philosophy 103: Introduction to Logic
Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle Term


Even with the Patriot act the US is one of the most free countires in the world. Note all this from a guy who uses holocaust deniers like the American Free Press .
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a legal analysis of the PA linked on that site.

It is recommended reading as it specifically highlights, amongst other things, where the PA encroaches on individuals' rights.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US is one of the most free nations in the world. Even with the Patriot act.

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Wangja



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
US one of the most free nations in the world.


Yes, that is probably so, and is one of the reasons I had always much admired the conutry and its institutions.

But beware that slippery slope, beware.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
US one of the most free nations in the world.


Yes, that is probably so, and is one of the reasons I had always much admired the conutry and its institutions.

But beware that slippery slope, beware.


Not even close, even w/the Patriot Act.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Closer than you think - shall I post some examples later?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
Closer than you think - shall I post some examples later?


If you have time to.


still not even close

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

It is kind of like US laws against organzied crime.
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