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trueblue
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bigverne
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| The people ultimately responsible for this - the politicians, media, and academic classes who opened up our borders and propagandized for this mass influx of Muslims - need to be one day held accountable for their crimes. |
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maximmm
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| You have to wonder how Germany will react. |
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Zackback
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mithridates
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GENO123
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| Why the US has the Patriot act. It probably doesn't go far enough. |
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Sector7G
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Paris |
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Who are you asking that question? I did not read anyone quoted in the article making any "excuses".
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| Scores were killed in the coordinated attacks late Friday, leaving a nation in mourning and the world in shock. |
Seems like a pretty accurate statement to me. |
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young_clinton
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Undoubtedly. The problem with Le_Pen is she's anti-Semitic, otherwise I wouldn't say there was anything wrong with anyone voting for her. Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite. It's the West, like it or leave. You know one of the terrorists was a refugee that had arrived weeks earlier. |
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Sector7G
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| bigverne wrote: |
| The people ultimately responsible for this - the politicians, media, and academic classes who opened up our borders and propagandized for this mass influx of Muslims - need to be one day held accountable for their crimes. |
Ultimately responsible? Don't forget the politicians who de-stabilzed the region when they invaded Iraq under false pretenses. |
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Adam Carolla
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| bigverne wrote: |
| The people ultimately responsible for this - the politicians, media, and academic classes who opened up our borders and propagandized for this mass influx of Muslims - need to be one day held accountable for their crimes. |
Ultimately responsible? Don't forget the politicians who de-stabilzed the region when they invaded Iraq under false pretenses. |
Because it's been such a bedrock of stability for most of history, right? |
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Sector7G
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Because it's been such a bedrock of stability for most of history, right? |
Relatively speaking, it was a hell of a lot more stable before the invasion. Certainly did not have the immigration crisis, and didn't have ISIS, a group that makes the PLO, Al-Qaeda, and Hezzbollah look like choir boys. |
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Sector7G
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A summary of current situation:
The issues are even more complicated than this short Vox video explainer shows and the previous history is important, up to and including the US invasion of Iraq.
Unless you are of the "kill 'em all and let God sort it out school" it's obvious that this is an extremely difficult problem. It's an awful mess, a basically sectarian religious war overlaid with massive amounts of valuable resources. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE&feature=player_embedded |
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matthews_world
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| I love Paris. I've visited Paris. I have a degree in French. Would love to see it again. |
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Adam Carolla
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| Adam Carolla wrote: |
Because it's been such a bedrock of stability for most of history, right? |
Relatively speaking, it was a hell of a lot more stable before the invasion. Certainly did not have the immigration crisis, and didn't have ISIS, a group that makes the PLO, Al-Qaeda, and Hezzbollah look like choir boys. |
Ok, let me summarize your position thus:
The west does nothing: WAAAHHHH!!! WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
The west does something: WAAAHHH!!! NOW IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN BEFORE!!!! YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MEDDLED!!!!
Sound about right? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. |
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Sector7G
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| Adam Carolla wrote: |
Ok, let me summarize your position thus:
The west does nothing: WAAAHHHH!!! WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
The west does something: WAAAHHH!!! NOW IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN BEFORE!!!! YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MEDDLED!!!!
Sound about right? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. |
Nice try-buy how can you "summarize" something I never said and then call it "my position" ? |
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