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[tomato]

I once attended a debate in which Massimo Pigliucci argued for Evolutionism and Duane Gish argued for Creationism.
The subject of the echinoderms came up.
Pigliucci asked why the echinoderms went extinct.
Were they destroyed in a fit of Divine wrath?
Gish anwered, "No, they were destroyed in a natural catastrophe."

That surprised me, because I thought that Creationists thought that God and nature were one and the same.

Changing the subject:

Ever heard the Haydn Symphony no. 96 in D major?
It has been nicknamed the "Miracle Symphony" because in its first performance, the audience was so fascinated that they all crowded around the orchestra to get a close look.
Meanwhile, the chandelier over the audience seats fell from the ceiling, and anyone sitting under the chandelier would have gotten killed.

My question is, if God was in on all this, then why didn't God merely prevent the chandelier from falling in the first place?

[wannago]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I think the Reverend is cherry-picking again. Just as he picks out verses in the Bible that support his views and ignores those that don't, he attributes acts of Nature to god when it supports his desires and ignores other natural events that don't.

I don't think orthodox Christianity says god and nature are the same. It seems to me that that is pantheism, and is considered a heresy.

While it's fine for Stephanopolous to interview him on TV, I think it would do more good to let other Christian leaders point out his contradictions.

[Blind Willie]

I hope Pat Robertson and the rest of those scumbags finally get their own island nation somewhere so they can go play theocracy with themselves.

I hear Afghanistan recently lost their fundamentalist overlords...

[the saint]

[Apple Scruff]

I like to think that if there really is a God, Pat Robertson (and everyone like him) is riddled with crabs, and spends all his non-Church time scratching his junk silly.

[seoulunitarian]

[Kuros]

Pain and suffering are no more an argument against God than they are against life.

According to most Christian theology, God doesn't cause people to do anything, including mundane things such as getting up from their seats, because that would violate man's free will. As to God's active intervention in the Cosmos, miracles may complicate things. I remember I once read a theologian seriously arguing against miracles. Today, I don't understand how his argument was tenable, considering that nearly every sect of Christianity believes in at least one, major miracle.

Whatever you believe, either in God or not, in the miracle of the resurrection or not, in free will or not, it should be hard not to believe the truth of this statement: Pat Robertson clearly contradicts himself.

[Nowhere Man]

[Cthulhu]

I really wish God would choose a side, and fast.

[mindmetoo]

I always have to laugh when I hear of fatal church bus accident.

Bus full of Christians crashes and people die. "They must have been very good Christians and God was calling them home!"

Bus full of homosexuals crashes and people die. "They were evil and this is a warning from God!"

Yep.

[tomato]

As long as the Bible is inconsistent, believers in the Bible can be inconsistent.
"God rains on the just and the unjust," but "All things work together for the good of those who glorify God."

[dogbert]

[red dog]