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As Low-Skilled Jobs Disappear, Men Drop Out of the Workforce
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: As Low-Skilled Jobs Disappear, Men Drop Out of the Workf Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Leon wrote:

I find it curious that people tend to lunp everything under the president. On foreign policy and some other things this makes sense, but the legislative branch has more control over the economy in general, and especially when it is adversarial to the executive.


Tell me, who is pushing the TPP? And who just made it easier to earn OT by executive decision (a rare win for labor)?


The overtime revision was huge. It was so important that one can criticize Obama for not doing it earlier.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/05/05/Obama-Moves-Toward-Executive-Action-Overtime-Pay

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[T]he administration argues that the rules have not kept up with the economy, with the result that businesses can classify workers making as little as $23,660 per year as “executives” in order to deny them overtime pay.

“The rules governing who is eligible for overtime have eroded over the years,” Labor Secretary Tom Perez wrote in a blog post today. “As a result, millions of salaried workers have been left without the guarantee of time and a half pay for the extra hours they spend on the job and away from their families.”

The FLSA rules have been updated twice in 40 years, most recently 11 years ago, when it was established that the threshold for exemption to overtime rules was a salary of $455 per week. Had that number risen with inflation, it would be $561 per week in 2015. As it is, a “management” worker earning $456 is ineligible for overtime despite the fact that he or she would be living below the poverty line if supporting a family of four.

In 2014, President Obama directed the Department of Labor to:

“Update existing protections in keeping with the intention of the Fair Labor Standards Act.”
“Address the changing nature of the American workplace.”
“Simplify the overtime rules to make them easier for both workers and businesses to understand and apply.”


So overtime was inapplicable to those termed "management" even though they may have made only enough money to escape the poverty line.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/05/17/overtime-pay-eligible-employees-workers/84504890/

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The rule . . . would essentially double the threshold at which executive, administrative and professional employees are exempt from overtime pay to $47,476 from the current $23,660. That’s expected to make 4.2 million additional workers eligible to receive time-and-a-half wages for each hour they put in beyond 40 a week.


4 million is the same number of undocumented parents of U.S. citizens barred from deferred action by the Fifth Circuit because the Supreme Court (4-4) could make no decision on whether to uphold or dismiss the injunction by a Texas judge.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

White Privilege Does Not Extend to Working Class Whites

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The framework of white privilege can be invoked with insight and subtlety, or with myopia and exaggeration; but either is a lot easier for white people to hear and to assimilate into their worldview if they’re college graduates who anticipate rewarding careers and stable family lives and mostly socialize with the similarly advantaged. They’re told that they ought to be thriving given their race … and they are thriving!

But imagine that you’re a white man from a working-class family who dropped out of college because you couldn’t swing the tuition. You worked construction, but that dried up—you’re presently unemployed, with child-support payments piling up, a sister addicted to pain pills, and a brother who is in jail again for felony drunk driving. You drive a beat up car with a broken turn signal that you can’t afford to fix. You get pulled over regularly, and you’re often harassed by the cops, who hate your tattoos. Would you identify with a coalition that alighted on white privilege as the center of its cultural outlook and that mostly disseminated that worldview through people with more educational, social, and financial capital than you’ll ever have?

Of course you wouldn’t. To do so would seem at odds with all the struggling white people in your familial and social circles. It would seem to imply that failing despite having all the advantages in the world makes you a special kind of loser. It would seem to focus on race to the exclusion of other hugely important factors. And as far as you can tell, when a white family gets their door kicked down and their dog shot in a drug raid, or when a white high school classmate of yours commits suicide, no one in the world of national media much cares.

Then you watch the DNC, where Michelle Obama, Cory Booker, Eva Longoria, and numerous other black and brown people who are much more successful than anyone you know take the stage. This needn’t feel threatening in and of itself to cause alienation. All it takes is being told that you’re the privileged one.


Oops.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plain Meaning wrote:
White Privilege Does Not Extend to Working Class Whites

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The framework of white privilege can be invoked with insight and subtlety, or with myopia and exaggeration; but either is a lot easier for white people to hear and to assimilate into their worldview if they’re college graduates who anticipate rewarding careers and stable family lives and mostly socialize with the similarly advantaged. They’re told that they ought to be thriving given their race … and they are thriving!

But imagine that you’re a white man from a working-class family who dropped out of college because you couldn’t swing the tuition. You worked construction, but that dried up—you’re presently unemployed, with child-support payments piling up, a sister addicted to pain pills, and a brother who is in jail again for felony drunk driving. You drive a beat up car with a broken turn signal that you can’t afford to fix. You get pulled over regularly, and you’re often harassed by the cops, who hate your tattoos. Would you identify with a coalition that alighted on white privilege as the center of its cultural outlook and that mostly disseminated that worldview through people with more educational, social, and financial capital than you’ll ever have?

Of course you wouldn’t. To do so would seem at odds with all the struggling white people in your familial and social circles. It would seem to imply that failing despite having all the advantages in the world makes you a special kind of loser. It would seem to focus on race to the exclusion of other hugely important factors. And as far as you can tell, when a white family gets their door kicked down and their dog shot in a drug raid, or when a white high school classmate of yours commits suicide, no one in the world of national media much cares.

Then you watch the DNC, where Michelle Obama, Cory Booker, Eva Longoria, and numerous other black and brown people who are much more successful than anyone you know take the stage. This needn’t feel threatening in and of itself to cause alienation. All it takes is being told that you’re the privileged one.


Oops.

Oops what?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, the American Bolsheviks blew their load too fast. Whites don't like this new reality where they're demonized in the nations their ancestors built, and the perpetual enemy of the hordes that are destroying their communities and replacing them. The Jews who put this multicultural plan in motion and openly celebrate the destruction of Whites seem to have bitten off more than they can chew. They always do. It's why they've been kicked out of their host nations so many times, they don't know when to stop attacking the people who let them in. The democratic party (of which Jewish donors make up around 70% last I checked) is officially the coalition of the fringes, the anti-White party; to be White person within its ranks will continue to imply deep ethnomasochism as seen by the likes of Kuros and Leon, or sheer stupidity.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
Plain Meaning wrote:
White Privilege Does Not Extend to Working Class Whites

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The framework of white privilege can be invoked with insight and subtlety, or with myopia and exaggeration; but either is a lot easier for white people to hear and to assimilate into their worldview if they’re college graduates who anticipate rewarding careers and stable family lives and mostly socialize with the similarly advantaged. They’re told that they ought to be thriving given their race … and they are thriving!

But imagine that you’re a white man from a working-class family who dropped out of college because you couldn’t swing the tuition. You worked construction, but that dried up—you’re presently unemployed, with child-support payments piling up, a sister addicted to pain pills, and a brother who is in jail again for felony drunk driving. You drive a beat up car with a broken turn signal that you can’t afford to fix. You get pulled over regularly, and you’re often harassed by the cops, who hate your tattoos. Would you identify with a coalition that alighted on white privilege as the center of its cultural outlook and that mostly disseminated that worldview through people with more educational, social, and financial capital than you’ll ever have?

Of course you wouldn’t. To do so would seem at odds with all the struggling white people in your familial and social circles. It would seem to imply that failing despite having all the advantages in the world makes you a special kind of loser. It would seem to focus on race to the exclusion of other hugely important factors. And as far as you can tell, when a white family gets their door kicked down and their dog shot in a drug raid, or when a white high school classmate of yours commits suicide, no one in the world of national media much cares.

Then you watch the DNC, where Michelle Obama, Cory Booker, Eva Longoria, and numerous other black and brown people who are much more successful than anyone you know take the stage. This needn’t feel threatening in and of itself to cause alienation. All it takes is being told that you’re the privileged one.


Oops.

Oops what?


Oops. Messaging of diversity plus white privilege will be off-putting enough to undermine the messages of hope at the DNC. Oops because the Democratic elite will not be able to see it, because they are too removed from rural white working class problems. Oops because Bernie Sanders was the gift to the Democratic Party that could have prevented this. Etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oops because Bernie Sanders was the gift to the Democratic Party that could have prevented this.


Bernie is one who sold you mindless utopian communists out most of all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Messaging of diversity plus white privilege will be off-putting enough to undermine the messages of hope at the DNC.


Messages of hope? The entire convention is 'Trump is a hatemonger' + 'Vote for me I have a vagina.'
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
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Messaging of diversity plus white privilege will be off-putting enough to undermine the messages of hope at the DNC.


Messages of hope? The entire convention is 'Trump is a hatemonger' + 'Vote for me I have a vagina.'


And the ignorant masses will vote for her.
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