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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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SuperHero wrote: |
Bibbitybop wrote: |
They can wait 90 days to submit the med check and get the pot out of their system, which btw is the way it should be as teachers shouldn't be penalized by Korean immigration for having cannabinoids in their system 30 days after arriving if they smoked in another country. |
why not? Koreans have gone to jail for smoking up in another country?'
stupid but true. |
hes right i remember the story about a korean who wrote in a blog about lighting up in amsterdam and was busted for it. think a hair test can show it for as long as 6 months |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
SuperHero wrote: |
Bibbitybop wrote: |
They can wait 90 days to submit the med check and get the pot out of their system, which btw is the way it should be as teachers shouldn't be penalized by Korean immigration for having cannabinoids in their system 30 days after arriving if they smoked in another country. |
why not? Koreans have gone to jail for smoking up in another country?'
stupid but true. |
hes right i remember the story about a korean who wrote in a blog about lighting up in amsterdam and was busted for it. think a hair test can show it for as long as 6 months |
Though I disagree with the Korean law, it states that Koreans should not smoke marijuana, even in another country and it is punishable after the fact. How they find out, who knows?
The fact is that Koreans are subject to this Korean law and foreigners are not. On the Seoul Police snitch board, a question was asked awhile back about the after-the-fact laws for foreigners. The police said as long as the foreigner didn't break Korean law and didn't smoke marijuana in Korea, they wouldn't arrest or prosecute those foreigners. Also, from accounts of getting tested and busted in Korea, foreigners have stated that the Korean courts take into account how long the foreigner has been in Korea if tested positive for marijuana in their system. If the foreigner was out of the country a few weeks before and it is reasonable that they smoked in another country, the courts consider this fact and won't prosecute a foreigner for breaking another country's law.
Furthermore, Korea shouldn't be concerned with foreigners testing positive for marijuana is smoked in another country because the foreigner is not a threat at all to other people or him/herself by simply having cannabinoids in their system. It's a whole other issue, but people shouldn't be afraid of pot smokers unless they high at the time while driving, operating heavy machinery, etc.
Also, hair tests will show marijuana use for the life of the hair. 3 year old hair would show marijuana use. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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I could sell my urine to those who need to submit a clean sample. Piss for sale! |
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pharflung
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Could it be that the reason drug testing for cannabis is not available in Korea is because cannabis is not generally available, either? |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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pharflung wrote: |
Could it be that the reason drug testing for cannabis is not available in Korea is because cannabis is not generally available, either? |
Yes, that is correct. The problem is requiring foreigners to get the test that is not widely available in Korea if applying for a job while in Korea and then shortly after arrival in Korea to get their ARC's. You can get a drug test in your home country and secure a job in Korea, but if you don't get another test after arriving in Korea, then you face deportation. This presents a serious failure in the new system unless they fix this flaw. |
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soju pizza
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: |
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MODS! Make this a sticky! |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: |
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TheChickenLover wrote: |
This isn't rocket science. Go to the doctor you normally see when you are ill |
Define "normally go to". I've seen a Korean doctor all of once in 12 years. And even then I was unconscious for most of it. |
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TDR
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps if you asked for a test for "cannabis" they might not understand. The proper test is a test for "cannabinoids". In Korean, it is "카니비노이드". You also need a test for TBPE which is for amphetamines. Before anyone tells me that TBPE actually means a test for Tuberculosis, the acronym can actually stand for both kinds of medical tests. Even after doing my own research, I was confused. After talking to the RN that I deal with here in Busan, I think I've got it.
Even though I'm re-upping my contract and don't need to do it, I went and got my medical check-up done today because I think it's a good idea to have one done each year. As well, just to be sure, I brought the information (written in Korean) from the Busan Education Program which pertains to the necessities for the medical check up. On the line for drug tests it says:
마약류 검사 결과: TBPE검사 및 카니비노이드 검사
which translates to:
Narcotic order/class test: TBPE test and Cannabinoids test
My point being that it's requested by the Busan Board of Education as being part of the narcotic portion of the required check.
Anyway, I got mine done at Dong-Eui Medical Centre in Busan. They have an English speaking nurse there who will help you through any tests you need. I have dealt with her many times and she's always been absolutely wonderful. They do all the tests that you might need but, of course, you've got to pay for them. It is 30 000 won for the standard medical check up. And for the two drug tests they charged me 24 312 won. I also asked for an HIV test, which apparently is not an extra charge. When you go for your medical check you should bring two passport sized photos and your Alien Card with you.
In Busan, the directions are below:
The international medical clinic is at Dong-Eui Medical Center. You go to the Yangjeong stop on line one and go out exit number 4. Right beside the exit on the corner (possibly right behind the exit) is a shuttle bus stop which, for 650won, will take you right up to the Medical Center. I believe the sign is white and blue, as opposed to the normal bus stop signs which are light blue and yellow. You could walk to the Medical Center, but the hill is huge and unless you're into pain, you'll curse your life if you do.
If you walk into the medical center, look to the right side of the lobby and there are a pair of glass double doors which a small sign to the left of them that say "International Medical Clinic". There are some couches and a TV inside. Go in and there is an RN who speaks English who will help you with anything you need and take you around the hospital and translate anything you need help with. She's there from 9-5, Monday to Friday. If she's not there when you get there, read a magazine and she'll be along shortly. For English speaking patients who want to set up an appointment: 051-863-7892. If they don't answer, they might be helping someone else. Try back in a few minutes.
A map can be found here:
<http://www.dongeui-med.or.kr/english/english_04.htm>
Information can be found here:
<http://www.dongeui-med.or.kr/english/english_01.htm>
Best of luck!
-TDR |
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