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Hot Rox Extreme
Multi spec Minerals
Chromium
Fish Oil
Multi-Vitamin
Extra Vitamin C
Glutamine - L
Beta 7 Alenine (Forgot spelling)
Whey Isolate (With NO SOY)
Coral Calcium
Vitamin B12
Caffeine
Green Tea
Wilow Bark (asprin)
Tribex

I don't take them all in one shot, and not everyday. I have lost over 55+ kilos I have learned to listen to my body. I can manipulate my body very easily. When preping for a fight I can easily loose 8-10 kilos IN ONE WEEK.

I also excercise up to 16+ hours a week depending if I am training for a fight or not.

on the average at least 8-10 hours a week.

I did a quick check to see how much I can eat before I start gaining weight and it was close to 4500+ calories.

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[samd]

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Protein is a necessary building block for muscles; however, resistance exercises are the main component for increasing strength. Protein is
used in our bodies to repair muscle after a workout but the amount of
protein consumed is not necessarily related to the amount of muscle in
our body. Eating more protein will not miraculously increase your
muscle size or strength.

For the average person or athlete, protein supplements are a waste of money. Not only can you easily consume the same amount of protein through whole foods, but you also benefit from other vitamins and minerals found in that food. These nutrients are also important for sport performance. Calcium, which is found in large amounts in milk and dairy products, is important for muscle contraction and bone health. Similarly iron, found in red meat, lentils and enriched grain products, is important for oxygen delivery to the muscles.

Take home message: For the extra money spent on protein supplements and the courage it takes to tolerate their taste, they are not worth buying.
http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/healthinfo//pdfs/Protein2.pdf

[TheUrbanMyth]

[vertical loser]

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Yes but cows also have three stomachs and have enzymes that can break down plant matter which contains protein. Also lots of cows are fed feeds that enriched, a free ranging bull IS no where the size of a modern farm bull.

You can't compare humans to bovines. Bovines are herbivores were as humans are omnivores.

I call BS on people and their stance on protein when they say you don't need it. Different people have different metabolisms. I respond better to proteins then most people, I can easily consume enough protein with out a problem to sustain myself, this is how I lost 58 kilos and I maintained my muscle mass with out being skinny fat. I know people that couldn't handle as much protein as me with out getting sick. Most people don't eat over 40 grams of protein a day. I eat 180+ I can't get that much protein into my system with in my calory allowance and I just couldn't eat that much real food with out feeling like a fricking pig. (Most people in this world don't have enzymes that break down lactose except for the Dutch and certain tribes in Africa)

Proteins work for me they don't work for other people. I cycle my proteins as well I know that changing type of proteins can be a healthy thing. The only thing I avoid as much as I can is SOY, which is just utter garbage (No one will convince me otherwise). For the last 2 years I fine tuned my diet for my sport I know what works for me and my sport I am not saying that it will work for everyone, but what bothers me is that people say protein suppliments are useless because they are not.

Simple facts are that proteins are hard to digest, they raise your core tempature, don't deliver as much energy as carbs. These are the same reasons why deathly obesse people are fed HIGH protein(not carbs) diets in hospitals to loose weight quickly (aka Velocity Diet).

Then ofcourse I am not your average schmuck either I excercise 3 hours a day sometimes.

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[vertical loser]

Fair enough if it works for ya, Temp.

I'm a minimalist, myself (a bit off topic here). I got priorities outside the gym at my age. I like the matrix system because it is short and intense, and I rotate it with conventional weights and a bit of running. When I do conventional weights I do the whole body in one routine, no more than once a week ( i.e once conventional and once matrix every 7-9 days). I figure it's better for recovery. I go for intensity, not volume e.g. I often do only ONE set TOTAL for biceps, one for triceps. I find that's enough with the intensity of doing back and chest matrix routines on my other days. If you ever tried having to do ten chins with body weight (100kg in my case) with only ten seconds rest after just doing 42 reps of machine pulldowns and 35 reps of rows, you will know what having fried arms is all about (along with lats, of course). I'm not into overtraining. I do no more than 2.5 - 3 hours of weights a week total (spread over three days).

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