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flower
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: SCHOOL WARNING - CEIC -Changnyeong English Immersion Camp |
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The Director and Manger of this school will use and abuse you - they unfortunately treat the foreign staff as monkeys - parade them in front of people and throw them away when they're bored.
The school has great facilities and the accommodation provided is really good too, but the boss is a complete control freak and a mad man. He will happily scream and shout at you on a daily basis, tell you who you can and cannot be friends with and he even told on of the other staff members who she could and couldn't date!
Don't be fooled by these guys - they will make your 12 months miserable. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Did you try shouting back?
Say yes to what ever they say but do as you please. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting the warning, OP. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: SCHOOL WARNING - CEIC -Changnyeong English Immersion Cam |
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flower wrote: |
The Director and Manger of this school will use and abuse you - they unfortunately treat the foreign staff as monkeys - parade them in front of people and throw them away when they're bored.
The school has great facilities and the accommodation provided is really good too, but the boss is a complete control freak and a mad man. He will happily scream and shout at you on a daily basis, tell you who you can and cannot be friends with and he even told on of the other staff members who she could and couldn't date!
Don't be fooled by these guys - they will make your 12 months miserable. |
Working Hours
( 1 ) What are your working hours?
( 2 ) When do you prepare for classes?
( 3 ) How long do you prepare for your classes?
( 4 ) How long are your breaks?
( 5 ) Does your employer allow you to use your breaks freely?
( 6 ) How many classes do you teach per day?
( 7 ) How much time do you spend teaching per class?
( 8 ) Do working hours change during summer and winter vacation periods?
Job Duties
( 1 ) What job duties do you perform that are not written in your contract?
Wages & Overtime Wages
( 1 ) Does your employer always pay overtime wages?
( 2 ) Does your employer pay your wages in cash or deposit your wages into your Korean bank account?
Pay receipt
( 1 ) Does your employer provide pay receipts that clearly state the date of pay, pay period dates, overtime wages earned, monthly salary including deductions from your monthly salary for ( a ) pension, ( b ) income tax and ( c ) health insurance?
Health Insurance
( 1 ) Has your employer provided you with a health insurance card?
( 2 ) Does your employer pay contributions for both parties to the National Health Insurance Corporation?
Pension
( 1 ) Does your employer pay into the Korean Pension Plan?
Income Taxes
( 1 ) Does your employer deduct the correct amount for income taxes from your monthly salary?
( 2 ) Does your employer pay deductions from your monthly salary for income taxes to the tax office?
Severance Pay
( 1 ) Does your employer always pay severance pay upon completion of the contract?
Living Conditions
( 1 ) Was your apartment clean upon arrival?
( 2 ) Were you provided with all the furnishings as stated in your contract?
( 3 ) Were all the furnishings/appliances in working order when you moved into your apartment?
( 4 ) Does your employer respect your right to privacy?
Paid Annual Leave
( 1 ) When and how do you use your paid annual leave?
Dismissal
( 1 ) Does your employer have a reputation of dismissing teachers for the sole purpose of not paying them last month�s wages, airfare and severance pay?
Financial
( 1 ) Is the school in financial trouble?
Paid Sick Leave
( 1 ) If teachers use a day of paid sick leave, does your employer require them to work another day to make up for the hours missed?
Students/Teachers
( 1 ) How many students attend the school?
( 2 ) How many students do you teach per class?
( 3 ) How many Korean teachers work at the school?
( 4 ) How many foreign teachers work at the school?
( 5 ) Is the director abusive towards students or teachers?
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think I've been there. Is it a big, red brick set of buildings in the countryside with a sports field beside. Nice facilities, as you say. The manager was very intense looking, 'dynamic'. The English Village type rooms have an airport, shop, etc. Is this the place? The FTs did NOT look happy there. I visited about a year ago. The manager looks very nervous and fidgety. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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There's this rather cryptic statement in their job ads -
"Recontraction Bonus: one month salary."
I'm sure they mean to say - "Severance pay: one month salary" (severance isn't mentioned). However, some naive newbie will take it literally, and sign on without carefully reading the contract. |
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flower
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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in response to captain kirk - it sounds like the place you visited and as you say the boss is nervous and fidgity - it all looks great on the outside, but once you're in its a different story |
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flower
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
There's this rather cryptic statement in their job ads -
"Recontraction Bonus: one month salary."
I'm sure they mean to say - "Severance pay: one month salary" (severance isn't mentioned). However, some naive newbie will take it literally, and sign on without carefully reading the contract. |
There are various forms of the contract and job advertisements that get sent out where this school is concerned I have seen them all! |
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flower
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: SCHOOL WARNING - CEIC -Changnyeong English Immersion Cam |
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Please see reponse to the questions below
( 1 ) What were your working hours? 9-5
( 2 ) When did you prepare for your classes? 9am
( 3 ) How long did you prepare for your classes? 30 mins in the morning
( 4 ) How long were your breaks? 45 minutes for lunch
( 5 ) Did your employer allow you to use your breaks freely? no
( 6 ) How many classes did you teach per day? 6
( 7 ) How much time did you spend teaching per class? 45 minutes
( 8 ) Did working hours change during summer and winter vacation periods? no
( 9 ) If yes to ( 8 ), what were the working hours during vacation periods?
( 10 ) Did your employer require you to work on the weekends? no
( 11 ) If yes to ( 10 ), what were the working hours on the weekends?
Job Duties
( 1 ) What job duties did you perform that were not written in your contract? cleaning, travelling, writing manuals for local authority offices
( 2 ) How often did you perform the above duties that were not written in your contract? very frequently
Wages & Overtime Wages
( 1 ) Did your employer always pay overtime wages? yes
( 2 ) Did your employer pay your wages in cash or deposit your wages into your Korean bank account? bank deposit
( 3 ) How did your employer calculate overtime wages? per hour
Pay receipt
( 1 ) Does your employer provide pay receipts that clearly stated the date of pay, pay period dates, overtime wages earned, monthly salary including deductions from your monthly salary for ( 1 ) pension, ( 2 ) income tax and ( 3 ) health insurance? no and when staff asked for pay advice slips he would get very upset!
Health Insurance
( 1 ) Did your employer provide you with a health insurance card? yes
( 2 ) Did your employer pay contributions for both parties to the National Health Insurance Corporation? yes
( 3 ) Did your employer respect your right to medical privacy? no
Pension
( 1 ) Did your employer pay into the Korean Pension Plan? yes
Income Taxes
( 1 ) Did your employer always deduct the correct amount for income taxes from your monthly salary? I think so
( 2 ) Did your employer pay deductions from your monthly salary for income taxes to the tax office?
Severance Pay
( 1 ) Did your employer always pay severance pay upon completion of the contract? yes - if you manage to finish
Living Conditions
( 1 ) Was your apartment clean upon arrival? no
( 2 ) Were you provided with all the furnishings as stated in your contract? no
( 3 ) Were all the furnishings/appliances in working order when you moved into your apartment?no
( 4 ) Were the bills in your name or your employer's name? neither
( 5 ) If the bills were in your employer's name, did your employer deduct the correct amount from your monthly salary for utilities? the right amount was paid
( 6 ) Did your employer respect your right to privacy? NO
Paid Annual Leave
( 1 ) When and how did you use your paid annual leave? when the boss said so and you had to submit signed statements and provide telephone numbers and addresses to say where you were going
Dismissal
( 1 ) Did your employer have a reputation of dismissing teachers for the sole purpose of not paying them last month�s wages, airfare and severance pay? yes - he would fire them or push them into resigning, this happened on several occassions to my knowledge
Financial
( 1 ) Was the school in financial trouble? no
Discipline Methods
( 1 ) Was your employer abusive towards students? yes
( 2 ) Was your employer abusive towards teachers? yes
Paid Sick Leave
( 1 ) Did you use a paid sick leave day? no - this was frowned upon, you were expected to go in unless you were on your death bed
( 2 ) If yes to ( 1 ), how did your employer react?
( 3 ) If teachers used a day of paid sick leave, did your employer require them to work another day to make up for the hours missed?
Students/Teachers
( 1 ) How many students attended the school? [color=red][b]70-85 per week
( 2 ) How many foreign teachers and Korean teachers worked at the school?[/quote] [color=red][b]8 foreign 1 Korean - when fully staffed, but it was usually 6 foreign and 1 korean |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Pay receipt
( 1 ) Does your employer provide pay receipts that clearly stated the date of pay, pay period dates, overtime wages earned, monthly salary including deductions from your monthly salary for ( 1 ) pension, ( 2 ) income tax and ( 3 ) health insurance?
no and when staff asked for pay advice slips he would get very upset! |
For new teachers reading this, the above reaction is never a good sign. |
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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If he is not a good person to work for, maybe you should consider quitting. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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justaguy wrote: |
If he is not a good person to work for, maybe you should consider quitting. |
Maybe flower already has. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not going to say anything opinionated (though I have plenty of opinions I could add to the above); suffice to say, anyone considering an offer from this place should consider the above *very* seriously. If anyone has any questions about this topic I'd be happy to respond to PMs. |
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flower
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Just for the record - I did quit. I wasn't the first and I am sure I won't be the last! |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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LOL
Excellent stuff.
Keep up the good work flower/s.
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