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Tamada
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: What Universities Have You Applied For in 2011? |
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Hey everyone,
Thought it would be a good idea to satart this thread so that, we can inform each other when interviews and university job offers have been sent out.
Presently, I'm two years at my current uni and am happy enough but saying that I've just applied for a position at Yeungnam University
Good luck all. |
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offtheoche
Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Ehwa Women's University......so far.
Will probably apply for one or two more universities before the end of the month. |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:27 am Post subject: |
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When should one apply for a university position? I have a master's degree in HR and when I finish my contract in June, I will have two years of experience. The first was at a hagwon, the second a high school. I'd like to get a CELTA this summer.
I really wouldn't mind staying where I'm at for another year, but advancing to the next level and/or increasing my earnings is highly desirable to me. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:18 am Post subject: |
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How is Yeungnam now? I've heard they've had some issues in the recent past. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Illysook wrote: |
When should one apply for a university position? I have a master's degree in HR and when I finish my contract in June, I will have two years of experience. The first was at a hagwon, the second a high school. I'd like to get a CELTA this summer.
I really wouldn't mind staying where I'm at for another year, but advancing to the next level and/or increasing my earnings is highly desirable to me. |
As soon as the job adverts start coming out. And they've been out for more than a couple of weeks. |
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Tamada
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:18 am Post subject: |
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bump. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: |
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there are a lot of good threads on this subject previously posted here.
although i can understand your wanting up-to-date info.
everyone is hiring - it's just 'how many' is the question.
...and who do you know, unfortunately, for the newbies. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Though honestly, sees like pay is going down and hours are going up. The Yonsei job in Wonju looks decent, if you like nature. |
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Tamada
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've decided that I want to remain at my current uni for one more year, so won't be interviewing this time round.
So ....anyone care to share any updates? |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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btw 400 people applied for 14 postitions at kyungwan univ talk about competitive |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I've been here for nearly 5 years and I have never even been close to finding a uni job. I guess my biggest problem is I don't have a master degree, but I've met people here teaching at unis with just a BA.
If anyone can give me a push in the right direction, please do. I've had enough of teaching public schools. |
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toonchoon
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
Though honestly, sees like pay is going down and hours are going up. The Yonsei job in Wonju looks decent, if you like nature. |
...and more jobs are requiring a MA. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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cj1976 wrote: |
I've been here for nearly 5 years and I have never even been close to finding a uni job. I guess my biggest problem is I don't have a master degree, but I've met people here teaching at unis with just a BA.
If anyone can give me a push in the right direction, please do. I've had enough of teaching public schools. |
Get a MA.
That will put you in the game.
The university I worked for in Busan received 500 applications for 6 positions. From what I have been told by friends I have on the hiring committee, the bulk of applicants have a MA in a TEFL-ESL related field or in Education and experience in Korea. The vast majority of applicants are also IN Korea.
So what happens next, typically, is that a lot of applications will get tossed out if they do not have a MA or even if they have a MA but in an unrelated field. |
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toonchoon
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Get a MA.
That will put you in the game.
The university I worked for in Busan received 500 applications for 6 positions. From what I have been told by friends I have on the hiring committee, the bulk of applicants have a MA in a TEFL-ESL related field or in Education and experience in Korea. The vast majority of applicants are also IN Korea.
So what happens next, typically, is that a lot of applications will get tossed out if they do not have a MA or even if they have a MA but in an unrelated field. |
not always. some unis like to hire peeps with degrees from famous unis and not just some back-alley, "C"-grade uni like the "Washington State University" Also, a BA from a university that is named "_____________ College" might get your resume tossed just cos of the name. Also, it's my experience, as a former recruiter in the states (not ESL recruiter;) that 95% of those in their 20's can't write a decent resume. Couple that with the fact that a lot of uni's will NOT hire those in their early/mid 20's, and it's not hard to narrow down from 500apps. Just because an applicant meets/exeeds the job specs does NOT mean their resume will get looked at. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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toonchoon wrote: |
PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Get a MA.
That will put you in the game.
The university I worked for in Busan received 500 applications for 6 positions. From what I have been told by friends I have on the hiring committee, the bulk of applicants have a MA in a TEFL-ESL related field or in Education and experience in Korea. The vast majority of applicants are also IN Korea.
So what happens next, typically, is that a lot of applications will get tossed out if they do not have a MA or even if they have a MA but in an unrelated field. |
not always. some unis like to hire peeps with degrees from famous unis and not just some back-alley uni. for instance, a BA from a university that is named "_____________ College" might get your resume tossed just cos of the name. Also, it's my experience, as a former recruiter in the states (not ESL recruiter;) that 95% of those in their 20's can't write a decent resume. Couple that with the fact that a lot of uni's will NOT hire those in their early/mid 20's, and it's not hard to narrow down from 500apps. Just because an applicant meets/exeeds the job specs does NOT mean their resume will get looked at. |
Considering current market trends in Korean ESL, the odds of landing a University position without a MA are low. It can happen for the smaller colleges or technical schools but still, you are better served with a MA.
My experience of a few years on the hiring committee of a Korean University (and that was before the market became so competetive) was that people without a MA, not matter how well they presented themselves, ended up in the rejection pile.
Unigwons and smaller colleges are a different story however.
I do agree that most people in their 20s seem unable to present a proper resume. Sadly, a lot of people in their 30s have the same problem.
You are also right that that 500 applications gets sifted through pretty fast. I was however discussion the dominant traits of the applicants. A few years ago, a hiring process would see fewer applications in total AND the applicants would be made up of a a lot of BA holders.
As far as what applicants get selected, if they met the requirements, they made it to the next phase. If they exceeded the requirements too much, they typically got rejected for being over qualified. If however they did not meet the requirements, they were automatically tossed out, no matter what University they attended as undergrads.
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