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Is it legal to teach without a degree?
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kneezah



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Is it legal to teach without a degree? Reply with quote

My boyfriend and I are looking to teach in Korea. I have a university degree where my boyfriend doesn't... This is where our problem lies. I seems like there's no legal way for him to teach without a degree.

Apparently you need an E2 visa to teach and to obtain that you need a degree... And it's illegal to teach there on a working holiday visa.

So does everyone teaching in Korea have a degree? A recruiter told us there may be some sort of loop hole since he has a TESL certificate. But from what I've read on the forums, it's probably best not to trust a recruiter.

Does anybody have any advice Question
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They used to allow people with a two year college certificcate, and aTESOL cert to teach also, but I thought that loophole closed a few years ago.


countdown til TMKATM jumps all over this?
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Juggertha



Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is illegal.

its doesnt stop some ppl, but know the risks.
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kneezah



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping there would be some sort of loop hole... What if you went over as a converation instructor or a private tutor as opposed to an English teacher. Would that fly?
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Is it legal to teach without a degree? Reply with quote

kneezah wrote:


Does anybody have any advice Question


Tell him to finish college, get married, then come to Korea. You should marry someone who is a good provdor anyway. I also don't think it is wise to come here with a boy- or girlfriend. I have seen many couples break up in Korea...what happens then?
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kneezah wrote:
I was hoping there would be some sort of loop hole... What if you went over as a converation instructor or a private tutor as opposed to an English teacher. Would that fly?


Conversation instructors are English teachers (in other words, you need an E-2 visa for that, too), and private teaching is illegal as well. Even those of us who are teaching here leagally at institutes or universities cannot teach private lessons on the side. It's totally illegal.

To answer your question then, you cannot legally work in Korea as an English teacher of any kind without a university degree. If you want to go the illegal route, do so at your own risk, but I wouldn't recommend it.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone correct me on this if I am mistaken. He might be able to teach part-time if he is enrolled as a student full-time here on a student visa. I seem to recall the Government allowing that starting a few years ago. I could be wrong. Otherwise, it is illegal.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lawyertood wrote:
Someone correct me on this if I am mistaken. He might be able to teach part-time if he is enrolled as a student full-time here on a student visa. I seem to recall the Government allowing that starting a few years ago. I could be wrong. Otherwise, it is illegal.


after 6 months
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Ella Bella



Joined: 15 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you can get temp jobs, of 3 months each time, on a working holiday visa. Look on the Korean embassy web site.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ella Bella wrote:
I'm sure you can get temp jobs, of 3 months each time, on a working holiday visa. Look on the Korean embassy web site.


not legally
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ella Bella wrote:
I'm sure you can get temp jobs, of 3 months each time, on a working holiday visa. Look on the Korean embassy web site.


You can get temp jobs on the working holiday visa but if you want a job teaching English, even a temp job, you still need an E2 & to satisfy those requirements & work legally as an English teacher, you need a degree. No loophole.
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kneezah



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice everyone! Looks like there isn't any legal way around it Confused

One of the schools I spoke to said that you can private tutor legally on a working holiday visa. I'm not too sure about that though. It seems like the government is going through great lengths to prevent non-degree holders from teaching.

Oh and Dragon... I don't plan on marrying myself off quite so soon. Maybe in 5 - 10 years.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kneezah wrote:
It seems like the government is going through great lengths to prevent non-degree holders from teaching.


I don't mean to sound preachy, but shouldn't they? Perhaps I'm reading it the wrong way, but your statement seems to carry the implication that non-degree holders have just as much right to teach as anyone else. Do you really believe that the job of educational professional should not actually require an education?
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ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

impossible to teach without a degree. or is it? pm ratslash, myself, and he'll give u the lowdown on working and teaching illegally in korea.
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ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
kneezah wrote:
It seems like the government is going through great lengths to prevent non-degree holders from teaching.


I don't mean to sound preachy, but shouldn't they? Perhaps I'm reading it the wrong way, but your statement seems to carry the implication that non-degree holders have just as much right to teach as anyone else. Do you really believe that the job of educational professional should not actually require an education?


and i suppose having a degree in a fashion design or building brick walls makes it ok for you to be a teacher? having such a degree automatically makes you a good teacher and makes you better qualified to be a teacher even though you have never done a teaching course?!?!? what a load of tripe. remember, it is not what you teach, it is how you teach and having a non-related teaching degree does not mean you know how to teach.

also, i find you calling english 'teachers' in korea, the foreigner looking to make a quick buck, an "educational professional" quite insulting to the people who actually are educational professionals.
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