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beecomet
Joined: 12 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Though you're completely off topic, I'll take a stab.
Basically, you're asking why do people reach out to others. I can't help you there. Fundamentally, you have to ask yourself why do people do anything at all. Good luck with that. |
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Dharma_Blue
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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redaxe wrote: |
Dharma_Blue wrote: |
Well, there might be some people here who have graduated from ivy league schools with TESOL degrees. I getting my masters in education from an ivy league and am thinking about teaching in Korea next year. What's so strange about that? |
Just as long as it's not because you can't find a better job in your home country. It depresses me to see economic refugees from America coming here because they basically have no better choice.
I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but honestly all my ESL teacher friends here, when I first asked them "so are you a teacher?" Their honest answer has been: "Yeah... I needed a job. *shrug*" |
Again, this begs the question: does having a cookie cutter house in suburbia, a 9-5 job in a cubicle with three weeks off a year, a car, a car payment, a morgatage, a 20% income tax rate, a 9% sales tax rate, a backyard bbq grill, and a overweight wife really make one "better" or "happier"?
Perhaps if you are a lawyer, doctor, buinessman, or a software engineer for Google, things might be different. However, and this has often been repeated, if you have no real marketable skills and/or enjoy teaching, then Korea or Japan are the way to go.
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Dharma_Blue
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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youtuber wrote: |
Come on Dharma, do we need to explain this?
Paying thousands of dollars for a brand name degree so that you can work for Mr Kim for $14/hour is....well.....kind of depressing.
Honestly, Korea is not a place to live and work long term! Focus on what you can do in the future back in your home country! That is the key! Korea is a dead end!
Teaching ESL in Korea is an experience. It is not a life. There are just too many things working against us here. |
Right, instead you can go home to the land of opportunity and fight with 30 other people for a 17$ dollar an hour job working for Mr. Smith. You may even get to pay $1400 dollars a month for a tiny little apartment in the East Village, L.A, or San Francisco in order to have the privilage of living somewhere "cool" |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Bog Roll wrote: |
Never heard of it.
What do you want us to do - perform a cartwheel. |
I've never heard of it either |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:09 am Post subject: |
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It seems that even the foreigners are propagating the stereotype of ESL teachers as being losers who have nowhere else to turn to because they can't get a job back home. I don't see what's wrong with wanting to visit another country to try something new. I don't know if it will be possible for me, but I also thought about being an ESL teacher in another country for the experience.
Dharma_Blue wrote: |
Again, this begs the question: does having a cookie cutter house in suburbia, a 9-5 job in a cubicle with three weeks off a year, a car, a car payment, a morgatage, a 20% income tax rate, a 9% sales tax rate, a backyard bbq grill, and a overweight wife really make one "better" or "happier"?
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Lol the American dream. Don't forget the student loan with 12% interest, kids' education, the dog, the divorce, the divorce lawyer, child support, and all the stuff you have to buy to keep up with the Joneses. |
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beecomet
Joined: 12 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:15 am Post subject: |
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I donate some money every year to Emory. $10. Hey, it's something. Anyone else do this? It goes straight to wherever I like. I had a good time at my university.
By the way, Emory isn't in the ivy league. No confusion there. It's a good school, though. I didn't get into Duke or University of Chicago, so I choose Emory.
youtuber wrote: |
Paying thousands of dollars for a brand name degree so that you can work for Mr Kim for $14/hour is....well.....kind of depressing. |
I went through on a three fourth's ride. Anyway, it's not depressing that I'm over here in Korea. Not at all. I don't discount or hate myself. No debt straight out my 4th year. I feel positive about my life. I don't understand all this negativity coming from your point of view. |
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GoodMike
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:20 am Post subject: |
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beecomet wrote: |
youtuber wrote: |
Paying thousands of dollars for a brand name degree so that you can work for Mr Kim for $14/hour is....well.....kind of depressing. |
I went through on a three fourth's ride. Anyway, it's not depressing that I'm over here in Korea. Not at all. I don't discount or hate myself. No debt straight out my 4th year. I don't understand all this negativity coming from your point of view. |
It is pretty apparent by all of youtubers posts that he is so unhappy with life, he can never post something that isn't negative towards korea, and other people. I actually feel bad for him. Every post i see from youtuber, i know its him with out even reading the name. Honestly, i do not even understand the point of him posting anymore. We get it...you hate life, you hate korea, and you dont think you get paid enough... Get over it and go home. Then you can make $14 dollars an hour, and have a mortgage/rent payment, car payment, 100 dollar cell phone bill, expensive internet and all the other joys of life.
Personally, i like my $14 dollars an hour, no debt, bills under 100 dollars a month, infact, im saving a ton of money. Not everyone hates life youtuber |
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Mirabilis85
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:28 am Post subject: |
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redaxe wrote: |
The lack of positive replies to this is rather comforting. At least graduates of top-ranking private universities aren't flocking to Korea to teach ESL... yet.
The day I meet an Ivy League grad here in Korea teaching ESL, I will shed a tear for my once-great but now fallen country. |
Ive met a couple in Korea. Shall I introduce? heheheh |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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beecomet wrote: |
By the way, Emory isn't in the ivy league. No confusion there. It's a good school, though. I didn't get into Duke or University of Chicago, so I choose Emory. |
Yes, I know that Emory is not part of the Ivy League. However, there was an attempt in 1950's to create a so called Southern Ivy League which alternatively might have been called a Magnolia Conference. It would have consisted of College of William and Mary, Duke, Emory, Rice, Southern Methodist University, Tulane, University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, University of Virginia, Vanderbilt, and Wake Forest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ivy |
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Bog Roll
Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: JongnoGuru country. RIP mate.
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:52 am Post subject: |
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blackjack wrote: |
Bog Roll wrote: |
Never heard of it.
What do you want us to do - perform a cartwheel. |
I've never heard of it either |
I thought an Emory was a problem with your backpassage.
I think they expect us subjects of the queen to give a monkey's about their silly universities.
My cousin went to Imperial College in London.
I went to the University of Wales in Swansea.
One person got a job as a chemist straightaway and turned down four financial jobs in the city of London.
And one ended up in Korea.
Guess who? |
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