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brainfreeze

Joined: 04 Jul 2009

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject:

Epicurus wrote:

Wait, the US has been dethroned as the most obese country on Earth??

by WHO(M)????

I'm calling massive BS on that front.

It would seem you're not uptodate on the latest BMI data, would be nice if you actually knew what you were talking about, before you called "massive BS"

http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-wins-world-heavyweight-title-20080619-2tfo.html

Australia is now the world's most obese nation.

brainfreeze

Joined: 04 Jul 2009

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject:

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In any case, that's just one article that I googled and other studies may differ in their findings.

Actually most medical journals seem to agree with this point.

The only 'article' that seems to disagree with this is probably this one (this one is based on a WHO list of obese nations):
http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/07/worlds-fattest-countries-forbeslife-cx_ls_0208worldfat_2.html

But it's a bit misleading because BMI actually varies depending on ethnicity, with the Asian BMI definition of "normal range" actually being slightly lower then that of Caucasians, which I doubt this article took into consideration. Suffice to say that there's a lot of debate about that particular list in the medical community.

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redaxe

Joined: 01 Dec 2008

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject:

brainfreeze wrote:

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In any case, that's just one article that I googled and other studies may differ in their findings.

Actually most medical journals seem to agree with this point.

The only 'article' that seems to disagree with this is probably this one:
http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/07/worlds-fattest-countries-forbeslife-cx_ls_0208worldfat_2.html

But it's a bit misleading because BMI actually varies depending on ethnicity, with the Asian BMI definition of "normal range" actually being slightly lower then that of Caucasians, which I doubt this article took into consideration.

SOUTH PACIFIC REPRESENT!!!

halfmanhalfbiscuit

Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject:

redaxe wrote:

brainfreeze wrote:

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In any case, that's just one article that I googled and other studies may differ in their findings.

SOUTH PACIFIC REPRESENT!!!

Oh dear-someone has escaped from Upper Hutt.

Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject:

Bronski wrote:

Konglishman wrote:

So, which nation is number 1 in obesity?

This article says it's Australia:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4171160.ece

In any case, that's just one article that I googled and other studies may differ in their findings.

I hear Greece is one of the top three and did lead in obesity one year.

ELGORDO

Joined: 12 Jul 2009

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject:

red_devil wrote:

Based on her comments in the book she does come off as being overly negative, narrow minded, and makes very broad generalizations some of which border on racist.

This is an an example of the insanity of products of the U.S. education system; if you disagree with what they have been "taught" you might be a redneck. I realize that her observations may offend your delicate sensibilities.
Generalizations- people live their lives by making generalizations. How about this generalization- almost all suicide bombers are muslim. Is this raciss?

I'm no Picasso

Joined: 28 Oct 2008

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject:

ELGORDO wrote:

red_devil wrote:

Based on her comments in the book she does come off as being overly negative, narrow minded, and makes very broad generalizations some of which border on racist.

No. It's historically obtuse. Kamikaze?

Konglishman

Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject:

Yaya wrote:

Bronski wrote:

Konglishman wrote:

So, which nation is number 1 in obesity?

I hear Greece is one of the top three and did lead in obesity one year.

So much for the Mediterranean diet...

madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:20 am Post subject:

brainfreeze wrote:

Australia is now the world's most obese nation.

Obesity leads to brain loss. Connection?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090825/sc_livescience/obesepeoplehaveseverebraindegeneration

A new study finds obese people have 8 percent less brain tissue than normal-weight individuals. Their brains look 16 years older than the brains of lean individuals, researchers said today.

Those classified as overweight have 4 percent less brain tissue and their brains appear to have aged prematurely by 8 years.

"That's a big loss of tissue and it depletes your cognitive reserves, putting you at much greater risk of Alzheimer's and other diseases that attack the brain," said Thompson. "But you can greatly reduce your risk for Alzheimer's, if you can eat healthily and keep your weight under control."

Privateer

Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:27 am Post subject:

Yaya wrote:

I hear rumors of a show "Chat with Beaus," or the male foreigner version of "Chat with Beauties." It'll be interesting to see a handsome white guy show a photo of his probably overweight and so-so looking Korean girlfriend, a phenomenon I see so much of in Korea.

I hear that. It's certainly not always the case, but there are still plenty of times I see a white guy and a Korean girl and think 'he could do so much better'.

Especially when me and my gf pass by a mirror, of course. (Please don't let her find out I said that).

Epicurus

Joined: 18 Jun 2009

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:53 am Post subject:

brainfreeze wrote:

Epicurus wrote:

Wait, the US has been dethroned as the most obese country on Earth??

by WHO(M)????

I'm calling massive BS on that front.

BMI is basically useless, though it'd me more useless in the US where more people lift weights, which renders a BMI reading useless.

I haven't been to Australia, but I'm shocked to say the least. I've seen some fat Aussie tourists but nothing like the morbidly obese specimens you'll find waddling around stateside.

brainfreeze

Joined: 04 Jul 2009

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject:

Epicurus wrote:

brainfreeze wrote:

Epicurus wrote:

Wait, the US has been dethroned as the most obese country on Earth??

by WHO(M)????

I'm calling massive BS on that front.

It's not entirely useless for some things. Sure BMI is skewed if you lift weights, but when you have a population where >50% of the people are "overweight" it can have some statistical meaning. If your physician is using BMI rather than the old fashioned (but once again in Vogue) waist-to-hip ratio to measure your CV risk, then they need to hit the journals again.

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