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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Informal Poll on Climate Threads |
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There are 5 (by my count) different threads on climate change here on the front page.
Has the time come to ask the mods to consolidate them all into one sticky?
I vote: Yes |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Yes. We don't need a new thread every time the Guardian posts a new editorial. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed.
I think some of the warmist fundamentalists were opposed to the title of the initial thread.
Any suggestions for a new title that would make everyone happy.
However, if the thread I started about the reaction in the UN to Charez and Mugabe is included in your "5 different threads" then I disagree.
I thing this was quite a different topic. This took me to a whole different level of angry.
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Axiom wrote: |
Any suggestions for a new name that would make everyone happy. |
"Greens: Suck It"
Or some variation of |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
Axiom wrote: |
Any suggestions for a new name that would make everyone happy. |
"Greens: Suck It"
Or some variation of |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll on Climate Threads |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
There are 5 (by my count) different threads on climate change here on the front page.
Has the time come to ask the mods to consolidate them all into one sticky?
I vote: Yes |
I vote: yes
Healthcare sticky too, I vote: hell yes |
Don't need a sticky. Just a unified thread. The whole sticky thing for JFK/911 topics was a special situation. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
Yes. We don't need a new thread every time the Guardian posts a new editorial. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Really kids, one thread is enough. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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No, I disagree. The Warming Conspiracy Thread is now about 52 pages. Way too long. Once threads reach that length, they are just too unwieldy and take far too long to wade through.
Secondly, my threads address different issues.
One thread asked how the recent scandal disproves anthropogenic warming. It's a very specific narrow question.
Another thread (the title and OP of which I intend to change - too busy today) is a place where I invite posters to post information that throws light on the 'credentials' (or lack of them) of famous climate deniers like Ian Plimer - and to show how their work has been discredited or thrown into serious question. On that thread I will also look at what the 'deniers' use as their main 'proofs' of their position, like the so called 'hockey stick scandal' and the supposed Mediaeval Warming Period (in which the global temperature never rose higher than those we see in the early 20th century).
Climate change is a huge subject - I don't see why it can't have parallel threads that examine different facets of the topic. It's also very topical right now - the failed Copenhagen conference, the scandal of the hacked emails, the significant dangers it poses to the human race (trivial point) etc. And I don't see how we should all be forced to post on one huge enormous thread that is going to run into hundreds of pages. How many of you kept reading the creation versus evolution thread that just kept going and going? I stopped after 20 pages. It needed too much time and dedication to follow the different strands and arguments. If you want to stop me discussing the subject (which perhaps you do) then amalgamating it all into one enormous thread is the best way to do it, because I just don't have the patience for enormous 1000 page threads.
Lastly, I don't see why you feel this deep need to regulate the current affairs board in this way. Have you nothing better to do? If you're not interested in the debates Yata-boy, just don't bloody read them. It is THAT simple. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:26 am Post subject: |
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So this is now about you. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Big Bird, you appear to be splitting hairs. The JFK and 9/11 threads are enormously complex, yet we are keeping it to one thread there. If anything, those issues deserve several threads each.
But I do buy your complexity argument to an extent. In fact, I would support the idea of more than one thread for the climate4 issue if we could have more for the stickies. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
So this is now about you. |
Well since I have created 3 of the 5 threads you are whining about, it clearly has much to do with me. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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And I think he knows that, too. He is, per usual, playing the smug card.
Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
mises wrote: |
Yes. We don't need a new thread every time the Guardian posts a new editorial. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
Big Bird, you appear to be splitting hairs. The JFK and 9/11 threads are enormously complex, yet we are keeping it to one thread there. If anything, those issues deserve several threads each. |
I never agreed with that idea (of amalgamating them) in the first place. Whenever I saw a JFK or 9/11 thread, I simply ignored them. It was very simple. If other people were excited about it, I didn't see why they shouldn't be allowed to chat about it. I found it boring, so I simply didn't bother to read them. But I didn't feel irritated that they existed.
And what about the hundreds of threads we had about the bloody US election? Should that have been one big thread? Although I found those discussions boring as hell, and avoided reading them, I didn't begrudge others chatting about something that clearly interested them.
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But I do buy your complexity argument to an extent. In fact, I would support the idea of more than one thread for the climate4 issue if we could have more for the stickies. |
Particularly since (unlike JFK) the climate debate is a very current topic.
I was going to start another thread inviting people to discuss what was (or perhaps what wasn't) accomplished at the Copenhagen conference, and where we might go from there - something I think is a subtopic that needs a thread all of its own. But since there are so many here whinging about it, I couldn't be bothered. Anyway, it's only a very trivial matter isn't it, the imperilment of life as we know it. Perhaps we could tack it on the end of that huge thread - you know, that love in where the irrational, the clearly deluded, and those so blinded by their own ideology, slap each other on the back and congratulate each other for their wholesale ignorance and utter folly. |
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