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creeper1



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Weird and Sick Punishment for student "Naked Pyramid&qu Reply with quote

I was browsing the internet and I came across this story. Wow I have never came across anything like this. Seems pretty sick.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-02/24/c_13186361.htm

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BEIJING, Feb. 24 (Xinhuanet) -- South Korean police investigators said the teenagers whose naked images appeared online recently were actually threatened into stripping off by some high school seniors, media reported Wednesday.

Last week, the Internet community was shaken by images of some 40 S Korean teenagers, pictured naked and piling up in a human pyramid and other forms of physical group punishment.

The photos were of a "graduation wrap-up party" in a middle school in Ilsan, Gyeonggi Province.

According to the victims, they received short messages from the seniors before the ceremony, telling them to join the naked celebration and warned of serious consequences if they refused to come.

S Korean President Lee Myung-bak called the problem a "cultural issue" and a " serious illness" in society, promising to reside over a monthly meeting on changing the public education system
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Weird and Sick Punishment for student "Naked Pyrami Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
I was browsing the internet and I came across this story. Wow I have never came across anything like this.



Didn't read about Abu Ghraib then I take it?


I think LMB needs to do more than just call for reform...if this story is true.
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crescent



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the story first broke of students being forced to strip naked for photos that were posted on the net, LMB's first public statement was that 'Korean students just need to work off stress and this shouldn't be a police matter".

So, here you have a president speaking of illegal acts as a 'social illness' and then saying well, it's just stress, let's not get them in trouble.

Hello?
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jiberish



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw it on TV. The misses said this kind of thing has been going on for a long time.

I don't know how making young boys get naked makes you cool. If anything it makes you gay or a future pedo?
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
I don't know how making young boys get naked makes you cool. If anything it makes you gay or a future pedo?


The Korean society at large has been slow on the uptake (at least publicly), so individuals with those closet proclivities feel free to act out in that way.
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RufusW



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
jiberish wrote:
I don't know how making young boys get naked makes you cool. If anything it makes you gay or a future pedo?

The Korean society at large has been slow on the uptake (at least publicly), so individuals with those closet proclivities feel free to act out in that way.

Wat? Feel free to be gay, or a pedo? Or feel free to make people get naked?

A harsh hazing.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RufusW wrote:
caniff wrote:
jiberish wrote:
I don't know how making young boys get naked makes you cool. If anything it makes you gay or a future pedo?

The Korean society at large has been slow on the uptake (at least publicly), so individuals with those closet proclivities feel free to act out in that way.

Wat? Feel free to be gay, or a pedo? Or feel free to make people get naked?



I'll gamble and say two out of the three.

Anyway, I taught in a Korean high school about 6 years ago, so no surprises here. Some of the more aggressive boys would have a veritable free-for-all on their cohorts between classes.
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Street Magic



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
jiberish wrote:
I don't know how making young boys get naked makes you cool. If anything it makes you gay or a future pedo?

The Korean society at large has been slow on the uptake (at least publicly), so individuals with those closet proclivities feel free to act out in that way.


Reminds me of that South Park episode where they kicked out an openly gay Boy Scout leader and replaced him with a hyper-masculine pedophile:

Clip is obviously NSFW
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
I saw it on TV. The misses said this kind of thing has been going on for a long time.

I don't know how making young boys get naked makes you cool. If anything it makes you gay or a future pedo?


Not just boys. It was girls too. Judging from what I've seen, it looks like there was a big group of perpetrators. Around 15-20 students, both male and female. The big group of older students were "hazing" the younger ones.

A graduation "hazing" ritual still happens in rural areas. The only reason this one was reported was because someone uploaded pictures on the internet. I think the usual hazing is tearing off someone uniform and throwing flour on them. This group of students from Ilsan took it to a while new level.
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RufusW



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard of worse hazings involving sexual acts in the UK and America.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its probably comparable to certain initiation rites that happen in the west at times ...e.g. during graduation or induction to the army.

Thats not to excuse it though. Group bullying and coercion into something seriouly infringing the dignity of individuals is sick.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
When the story first broke of students being forced to strip naked for photos that were posted on the net, LMB's first public statement was that 'Korean students just need to work off stress and this shouldn't be a police matter".

So, here you have a president speaking of illegal acts as a 'social illness' and then saying well, it's just stress, let's not get them in trouble.

Hello?

LMB is right. Nudity, as anyone who has ever visited a jimjilbang will know, is just not a big deal in Korea.

Of course, forcing people to do it is wrong, but this is not way beyond the pale of ordinary hazing. It is only an issue because of the pictures.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be a hazing process to earn ESL Cafe membership
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crescent



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:

LMB is right. Nudity, as anyone who has ever visited a jimjilbang will know, is just not a big deal in Korea.

Of course, forcing people to do it is wrong, but this is not way beyond the pale of ordinary hazing. It is only an issue because of the pictures.

I have visited plenty of Jjimjilbangs, so I can't understand the point you're trying to make here.
Even in hazings, and believe me, I've been through enough. No one ever FORCED me to strip in public with the threat of violence, or sexually assaulted me, and then uploaded my nakedness to the internet.
Last I heard, those things are all illegal. Bullying is a police matter here, and is highly publicized as such. I'm willing to bet creating pornography, especially under the age of 18 is not exactly legal either. Privacy LAWS are quite strict.

Somehow though, this is not a legal matter?

This reminds me of that middle school, gang-rape/sodomy case here in Daegu a year or two ago. The whole nasty, horrible situation was swept under the rug. Apparently it wasn't a police matter either.
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