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ghostrider
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 Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:58 pm Post subject: KT: Girls' Generation faces racial attack |
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Describing the moment of winning the award in a crowded auditorium in New York, CNN reported, “While massively popular in Asia, the reaction to its win from the American audience was muted — with scattered applause, but mostly a long, deafening silence.”
Many viewers of the ceremony, which was streamed live online, were upset with what they called a “rude” reaction, one of whom said “That’s the worst problem I guess for people in the United States... being ethnocentric.”
Some viewers assailed the group with racist commentaries. “The question is why is Girls’ Generation in America if they can’t speak a word of English lolllooololl,” an unidentified individual complained on Tweeter, referring to the award-winning song, whose lyrics are all in Korean save a couple of English words. Another said “CHING CHONGS INVADING MY MENTIONS SOMEONE WHY DIDN’T THEY DIE WHEN AMERICA NUKED THEM.”
A disheartened Bieber fan said, “HOW DID JUSTIN LOSE OVER SOME JAPANESE CHICK NO ONE KNOWS.” One Katy Perry fan tweeted, “My mention full with Asian ching chang chong.” |
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2013/11/386_145820.html
So that's what the Korean teachers in the teachers' room were talking about the other day. They were having a lively conversation in which they mentioned the name Justin Beiber a few times. |
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saram_
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Most likely they (Korean co teachers) were referring to the video of Bieber that was leaked by a Brazilian prostitute though..
It was my wife that told me about it so it got around aplenty in Korea as well as everywhere else.
http://t.co/oLUaIaSKFK |
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maitaidads
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Yeah, but think what would happen if Nickelback won an award- at a show broadcast from Korea and mostly intended for an Asian audience- due to a write-in campaign from Canadians? There would be confusion, excitement and rage about it from the KR netizens I imagine  |
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Fox
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| “That’s the worst problem I guess for people in the United States... being ethnocentric.” |
Seriously? |
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World Traveler
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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I saw a report about acceptance of minorities in various developed countries across the world. The U.S. was ranked high, as was Canada. South Korea: below average.
(The reason the audience didn't applaud wildly was not because of racism or ethnocentrism, but because the song I've Got A Boy sucks.) |
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John Stamos jr.
Joined: 07 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Youtube has a music award show now? Alright...
Anyway, I didn't know journalists were now allowed to write articles when their primary sources are anonymous youtube comments and tweets made by 14 year old girls.
This kind of music is little girl music and Bieber has jacked about $300 million in babysitting money from that demographic already, while riding balls deep in them, so of course, possibly not even a teenager yet, sally4bieber999 from dickville, Arkansas is going to be mad and say something dumb on the Internet. Regardless, kt never had any credibility to begin with and this is nothing more than another example of how paranoid and weird korean people can be sometimes. Even my phone auto corrected and capitalized Bieber, eesh. I also didn't know all girl pop groups were even popular in the US anymore, since like the TLC days. |
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Popocatepetl
Joined: 14 Oct 2013
Location: Winter in Korea: One Perfect day after another
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Girls generation have no rapport with americans or any non- koreans. Neither have they taken any steps to build one.
I remember watching them get off their tour bus. They avoided foreigners like the plague, don't speak a word of english, and seemed to react with horror to foreign people.
Its embarrasing to watch and I kinda feel sorry for them, but they're just too korean-korean to know what it takes. Ice cold aloof me-me-me gangnam princesses covered in make-up is not a formula that is going to do well in the west. If their team had simply asked the advice of a foreigner, it probably would have saved them millions.
If Korea wants a genuine success in the US they will probably have to recruit an american korean whose family has lived there for several generations. Someone who accepts non-korean people and who knows that the secret to popularity is actually having a message and communicating to fans on their level. |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Always racisim isn't it.
The fact that two of the source quotes they use form bastion of journalistic integrity "twitter" both mention Japan show the problem pretty clearly:
No one, outside a core of koreaphiles, hasn't any idea of who this group is.
Terrible racism.
Edit: I obviously mean in the west. |
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johnny_russian
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Popocatepetl wrote: |
Girls generation have no rapport with americans or any non- koreans. Neither have they taken any steps to build one.
I remember watching them get off their tour bus. They avoided foreigners like the plague, don't speak a word of english, and seemed to react with horror to foreign people.
Its embarrasing to watch and I kinda feel sorry for them, but they're just too korean-korean to know what it takes. Ice cold aloof me-me-me gangnam princesses covered in make-up is not a formula that is going to do well in the west. If their team had simply asked the advice of a foreigner, it probably would have saved them millions.
If Korea wants a genuine success in the US they will probably have to recruit an american korean whose family has lived there for several generations. Someone who accepts non-korean people and who knows that the secret to popularity is actually having a message and communicating to fans on their level. |
errrr ... two of them are actually Korean-American, and speak pretty fluent English. Jessica was born in the US and lived there until she was 11, and Tiffany was also born in the US and lived there until she was 15. |
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Kepler
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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"Winners will be chosen by popular vote from YouTube users around the world, meaning that fans from South Korea or Brazil or anywhere else could choose the victors if they vote in large enough numbers. But voting is limited to once per person per day, for each award category, Ms. Tiedt said, to filter out fraud and the overzealous."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/business/media/youtube-plans-a-music-awards-show-live-from-new-york.html?_r=0
I saw the video. My first reaction was- how did this happen? Why was this chosen as the best music video of the year by youtube users? Then I thought about the billions of people in China and other Asian countries. Maybe a lot of those people would rather see an Asian group win the award than an American one and they easily outnumber Americans. |
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maitaidads
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Jessica was born in the US and lived there until she was 11, and Tiffany was also born in the US and lived there until she was 15. |
I think that was the intro for an "Unsolved Mysteries" episode about child brides sold abroad from Ohio. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Kepler wrote: |
"Winners will be chosen by popular vote from YouTube users around the world, meaning that fans from South Korea or Brazil or anywhere else could choose the victors if they vote in large enough numbers. But voting is limited to once per person per day, for each award category, Ms. Tiedt said, to filter out fraud and the overzealous."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/business/media/youtube-plans-a-music-awards-show-live-from-new-york.html?_r=0
I saw the video. My first reaction was- how did this happen? Why was this chosen as the best music video of the year by youtube users? Then I thought about the billions of people in China and other Asian countries. Maybe a lot of those people would rather see an Asian group win the award than an American one and they easily outnumber Americans. |
So they stuffed the ballot box again just like with that "Rain versus Colbert" event a few years ago? |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| maitaidads wrote: |
| Yeah, but think what would happen if Nickelback won an award- at a show broadcast from Korea and mostly intended for an Asian audience- due to a write-in campaign from Canadians? There would be confusion, excitement and rage about it from the KR netizens I imagine |
And the Korea Times would accuse everyone of racism, of course. |
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saram_
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:06 am Post subject: |
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A nice little insight here into how the winning video is chosen and the power of K-Pop fandom..
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/BL-SEB-78043
More power to them..
Anyway- looking forward to this rainy little spell in Seoul ending soon and then everyone complaining about the sudden drop in temperature and how damn cold this Winter is. |
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El Bandito
Joined: 07 Oct 2013
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| johnny_russian wrote: |
| Popocatepetl wrote: |
Girls generation have no rapport with americans or any non- koreans. Neither have they taken any steps to build one.
I remember watching them get off their tour bus. They avoided foreigners like the plague, don't speak a word of english, and seemed to react with horror to foreign people.
Its embarrasing to watch and I kinda feel sorry for them, but they're just too korean-korean to know what it takes. Ice cold aloof me-me-me gangnam princesses covered in make-up is not a formula that is going to do well in the west. If their team had simply asked the advice of a foreigner, it probably would have saved them millions.
If Korea wants a genuine success in the US they will probably have to recruit an american korean whose family has lived there for several generations. Someone who accepts non-korean people and who knows that the secret to popularity is actually having a message and communicating to fans on their level. |
errrr ... two of them are actually Korean-American, and speak pretty fluent English. Jessica was born in the US and lived there until she was 11, and Tiffany was also born in the US and lived there until she was 15. |
Wow. You made such a relevant point there.  |
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