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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nachoinkorea wrote:
Actually Urban Myth, that was the old rule. It changed back in 2010 I believe.

Now, if you have an E-2 visa and you want to add a 2nd job to your visa (again, provided you have your visa sponsor's permission) you can add either a public or private school to that job regardless if your visa sponsor is public or private.

A few years ago the old system used to be:
1. private visa sponsor = only add public schools to your visa
2. public visa = only add public schools to your visa

You could not go "public to private" or "private to private", but like I said those rules changed. Some of our current staff are sponsored by public schools but they add us to their visa.


The rule about public school teachers is a MOE policy NOT an Immigration issue.


To the best of my knowledge full time public school teachers are still not permitted to have a second job. That rule was put in place to stop them from using their position for gain...like "advising" students to attend their hakwon/tutoring classes.

Mr. ttompatz (who is widely regarded as knowledgeable on these issues )has also said the same thing.

Although if you have a link which shows the MOE changing the rules, I would like to see it.
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nachoinkorea



Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, let me rephrase that.

Teachers who work at an after-school program (which is still considered a public school) can now add 2nd jobs to their visa. In the past they were under the same rules as full-time teachers at their public school, in that the only way they could add a 2nd job to their visa was if the 2nd job was a public job.

I have some staff who have their visa sponsored by after-school public programs and they add my company to their visa. But of course, you still have to get the visa sponsor's permission.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
nachoinkorea wrote:
Actually Urban Myth, that was the old rule. It changed back in 2010 I believe.

Now, if you have an E-2 visa and you want to add a 2nd job to your visa (again, provided you have your visa sponsor's permission) you can add either a public or private school to that job regardless if your visa sponsor is public or private.

A few years ago the old system used to be:
1. private visa sponsor = only add public schools to your visa
2. public visa = only add public schools to your visa

You could not go "public to private" or "private to private", but like I said those rules changed. Some of our current staff are sponsored by public schools but they add us to their visa.


The rule about public school teachers is a MOE policy NOT an Immigration issue.


To the best of my knowledge full time public school teachers are still not permitted to have a second job. That rule was put in place to stop them from using their position for gain...like "advising" students to attend their hakwon/tutoring classes.

Mr. ttompatz (who is widely regarded as knowledgeable on these issues )has also said the same thing.

Although if you have a link which shows the MOE changing the rules, I would like to see it.


Actually, the civil service act - but yes, it prohibits anyone who is employed by the government from taking a 2nd job.

Immigration doesn't care. The POE/MOE/City Office do care and will terminate the employment and sponsorship of anyone in violation of the act.
This is for ALL government employees (Korean included) and not just E2/NETS.

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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big time Bump up....


I have an offer, to be sponsored for a part time E-2 visa.

Schedule: 3-6 p.m., M-F
Pay: 20,000 won per hour
Agreement allowing me to find part time work eslwhere.

I have never worked part time or taught privates (I walked the line on that one).

But, I have some questions before I accept/decline the offer.

1. I assume I am not entitled to ANY benefits, even paid national holidays, correct?

2. Is 20,000 won per hour to low, for 15 hours a week, (the commute will be roughly 45-60 minutes each way)?

3. Would it be wise to ask for a six month visa as opposed to a year long visa...or even three months (I've heard it has been done)? One never knows about having a golden nugget fall into your lap.

4. Considering the rise and demand of "only F series" visas for part time jobs, is it worth the risk and time, to take this offer and take my chances trying to find P/T work on an E-2 (again, I will have permission).

5. I will not have housing, obviously. Living in a Goshitell would be the avenue I would have to pursue.


So...does anyone have any thoughts or information on the matter?

Are part-time E-2 "employees" supposed to receive any of type of benefits?

Thank you.
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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUMP (I have to know by today so I can make a decision by tomorrow).

Big time Bump up....


I have an offer, to be sponsored for a part time E-2 visa.

Schedule: 3-6 p.m., M-F
Pay: 20,000 won per hour
Agreement allowing me to find part time work eslwhere.

I have never worked part time or taught privates (I walked the line on that one).

But, I have some questions before I accept/decline the offer.

1. I assume I am not entitled to ANY benefits, even paid national holidays, correct?

2. Is 20,000 won per hour to low, for 15 hours a week, (the commute will be roughly 45-60 minutes each way)?

3. Would it be wise to ask for a six month visa as opposed to a year long visa...or even three months (I've heard it has been done)? One never knows about having a golden nugget fall into your lap.

4. Considering the rise and demand of "only F series" visas for part time jobs, is it worth the risk and time, to take this offer and take my chances trying to find P/T work on an E-2 (again, I will have permission).

5. I will not have housing, obviously. Living in a Goshitell would be the avenue I would have to pursue.


So...does anyone have any thoughts or information on the matter?

Are part-time E-2 "employees" supposed to receive any of type of benefits?

Thank you.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

BUMP (I have to know by today so I can make a decision by tomorrow).

Big time Bump up....


I have an offer, to be sponsored for a part time E-2 visa.

Schedule: 3-6 p.m., M-F
Pay: 20,000 won per hour
Agreement allowing me to find part time work eslwhere.

I have never worked part time or taught privates (I walked the line on that one).

But, I have some questions before I accept/decline the offer.

1. I assume I am not entitled to ANY benefits, even paid national holidays, correct?

2. Is 20,000 won per hour to low, for 15 hours a week, (the commute will be roughly 45-60 minutes each way)?

3. Would it be wise to ask for a six month visa as opposed to a year long visa...or even three months (I've heard it has been done)? One never knows about having a golden nugget fall into your lap.

4. Considering the rise and demand of "only F series" visas for part time jobs, is it worth the risk and time, to take this offer and take my chances trying to find P/T work on an E-2 (again, I will have permission).

5. I will not have housing, obviously. Living in a Goshitell would be the avenue I would have to pursue.


So...does anyone have any thoughts or information on the matter?

Are part-time E-2 "employees" supposed to receive any of type of benefits?

Thank you.


No 5 will drag you down quickly!

1.2 mill a month + near to 2 hours travelling a day..... But desperate times can call for desperate measures.....

Do you have any savings? If so maybe turn this offer down and keep looking....
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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
No 5 will drag you down quickly!

1.2 mill a month + near to 2 hours travelling a day..... But desperate times can call for desperate measures.....

Do you have any savings? If so maybe turn this offer down and keep looking....


I have a bit...plus, family is chipping in. I will be prepared to go to Thailand, if necessary (though, I'd be making the same money with a full time job, there).

I"m just curious about the rate...is it fair or am I being low balled, considering the commute and what not?
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a bit...plus, family is chipping in. I will be prepared to go to Thailand, if necessary (though, I'd be making the same money with a full time job, there).

I"m just curious about the rate...is it fair or am I being low balled, considering the commute and what not?


You're not necessarily being low balled - 20,000 is kind of the going rate for 'after school' lessons at elementary age. It increases with age.

But 20,000 isn't a huge amount either! I don't really think you're in a much of a negotiating position though really.

If you can afford to, turn it down and go to Thailand, although with the current economic/political climate over there, the exchange rate might not be that great.....
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Coltronator



Joined: 04 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 000/hr. standard? That is incredibly low, especially as you said 40-50 min commute. Though I guess it could be the E2 thing.

Consider that even places like Chungdahm or Avalon pay minimum 25k/hr. and often 30/hr. for part timers this 20k offer seems incredi.bly low.

Most After school programs pay a minimum of 32 or so but again that is most often an F visa job.

Either way you need to ask for 25-30 K for that position. If they are giving you housing 25k
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow. 20k an hour. I can't believe how much salaries keep dropping.\

I was making 36,000 / hour at Chungdahm in 2010 (and I was by no means the most highly paid teacher, though I was in the upper range).
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd give it a pass. pay is too low, commute is too long.

Pt jobs generally are 30-40 an hour, a block like that is usually closer to 30.
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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, the offer passed as quickly as it appeared. I started asking questions, focusing on matters discussed here.

Things changed rather quickly.

Here is one...are part time E-2 visa holders at a hagwon able to receive benefits?

I have another offer...1.8, M, W, F, 9 to 6....with about a 50 minute commute.

I did the rough math and it seemed I would be making around 15,0000 Ann hour.

In addition, how should I be classified in terms of employment status, as to which you good folks are referring to?
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