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Why is beef so expensive here?
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean beef generally sold at local stores is cut very poorly. Basically, they pass-off a lot of the fat as extra weight so they can make more money. You end up paying more for less, on top of the insane prices.

We eat American or Aussie beef when we can find it.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those in the Seoul area, it's worth noting that High Street Market in Itaewon has excellent prices on Aussie beef. 4,500 for 500 grams of ground beef, 8,000 for a kilo. They also have some pretty awesome deals on steak, usually around 12,000 for 500 grams of sirloin, 24,000 for 500 grams of tenderloin, with a variety of other cuts at varying prices in the middle.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
For those in the Seoul area, it's worth noting that High Street Market in Itaewon has excellent prices on Aussie beef. 4,500 for 500 grams of ground beef, 8,000 for a kilo. They also have some pretty awesome deals on steak, usually around 12,000 for 500 grams of sirloin, 24,000 for 500 grams of tenderloin, with a variety of other cuts at varying prices in the middle.


Good info........isn't it weird that small independent markets can sell meat so much cheaper than big national supermarket chains?
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
northway wrote:
For those in the Seoul area, it's worth noting that High Street Market in Itaewon has excellent prices on Aussie beef. 4,500 for 500 grams of ground beef, 8,000 for a kilo. They also have some pretty awesome deals on steak, usually around 12,000 for 500 grams of sirloin, 24,000 for 500 grams of tenderloin, with a variety of other cuts at varying prices in the middle.


Good info........isn't it weird that small independent markets can sell meat so much cheaper than big national supermarket chains?


It's not a matter of can so much as being willing to. Anyway, one of the owners used to be a meat distributor or something so I think he cuts out the middle man. I'd also say that the meat I've purchased there is better than anything on offer at any of the major chains, at least for Western cooking.
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Lazio



Joined: 15 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
we're talking about food! People have to buy food, you anti-genius.......lots of poorer Koreans are eating little else but kimchi and rice because your capitalist friends are setting the prices of fruit, veg and meat out of their reach! I've no problem with unnecessary stuff like handbags and designer kitchen appliances being stupidly priced in Korea......but the price of basic foodstuffs should be controlled.


Couldn't agree more.

The thing is, Koreans are much like "sheep minded" and will do the exact same thing as everyone else and will believe in whatever propaganda they have been hearing since their early childhood. "Korean beef is the best, Korean pork is the best and all pork sold in Korea is from Jeju...."

As long as there are people who think that
-100,000Krw for a kilo of Hanu,
-40,000 Krw for a single fish and
-2,000 Krw for 1, otherwise completely tasteless pear is a fair price and they keep buying it, there will be no changes.

Just to remember, the minimal wage is under 5,000/hour... and there are millions making a living on that or even less, as a family.
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laynamarya



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another issue, I recently learned, is that Korea has to import grass for those cows that are grass-fed. This is also, allegedly, why butter now costs 7,500 won.
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

many more restaurants are serving American beef. They usually list it somewhere on a small out of the way sign.

I assume they keep the price difference as profit. Some offer the option between both cuts of beef.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
I'll eat Aussie grass-fed beef before I eat the grain-fed crap-shot beef from Korea or the U$A. BTW, is anyone aware of any U$A grass-fed beef that hasn't been shot with bovine growth hormones~being soild here in Korea? Thanks in advance.


Where in Korea are you buying grass-fed beef?
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans being forced to pay more than they should?

I'm shocked!
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea still maintains serious impediments to beef imports despite recent liberalization. Canadian beef has been kept out and only yesterday was it announced that Canadian beef would be allowed into Korea following a 9 year ban. There are innumerable regulatory impediments to importing beef and there is a 40% tariff.

The 40% tariff raises the price directly, of course, and the regulatory restrictions further reduce the supply. The higher price from the tariff and the availability limitations means that the supply curve for beef has been shifted and the resulting price is far higher than what would occur in a free market.

Elimination of the tariff and elimination of the burdensome regulatory system plus the addition of Canadian beef in a free market environment would mean a minimum 50% reduction in Korean beef prices.


Government is the problem.

Liberty is the answer.
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minos



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:


Government is the problem.

Liberty is the answer.


More like the cattle and food lobby leaned on the government. Same happens in the USA.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minos wrote:
ontheway wrote:


Government is the problem.

Liberty is the answer.


More like the cattle and food lobby leaned on the government. Same happens in the USA.



The fact that the government serves special interests doesn't change the fact that government is the problem. Socialism always fails, the people always lose, the politically powerful always win - government is the problem.

Liberty is still the answer.
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
northway wrote:
For those in the Seoul area, it's worth noting that High Street Market in Itaewon has excellent prices on Aussie beef. 4,500 for 500 grams of ground beef, 8,000 for a kilo. They also have some pretty awesome deals on steak, usually around 12,000 for 500 grams of sirloin, 24,000 for 500 grams of tenderloin, with a variety of other cuts at varying prices in the middle.


Good info........isn't it weird that small independent markets can sell meat so much cheaper than big national supermarket chains?


Collusion to keep prices artificially high to gouge consumers.
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
For those in the Seoul area, it's worth noting that High Street Market in Itaewon has excellent prices on Aussie beef. 4,500 for 500 grams of ground beef, 8,000 for a kilo. They also have some pretty awesome deals on steak, usually around 12,000 for 500 grams of sirloin, 24,000 for 500 grams of tenderloin, with a variety of other cuts at varying prices in the middle.


Thanks for that info. That's $4 a pound for ground, $11 a pound for sirloin, and $22 a pound for tenderloin. It's even cheaper than Whole Paycheck! Laughing

Korea's BADLY in need of a Trader Joe's. I miss my two buck chuck, $2/pound ground beef and $8.99 a pound, perfectly portioned, ribeye steaks damn it! Food prices higher than New York in a country that makes half the income is ridiculous.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't trust the "Hoengseong hanwoo," labels.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/11/116_123761.html

Quote:
Supreme Court rules on origin of cattle The nation's top court has ruled that cattle born in other areas but raised in Hoengseong for a certain period of time can be labeled as "Hoengseong hanwoo," officials said Friday.

Hoengseong is a rural area in Gangwon Province, about 137 kilometers east of Seoul, famous for its high-quality hanwoo beef. Hoengseong beef is recognized as a premium product, and usually fetches high prices.

Annulling a lower court's guilty verdicts for three people, including a suspect surnamed Kim, for violating the agricultural products quality control act, the Supreme Court returned the case to the high court, asking it to reconsider its decision.

The three were charged with purchasing some 500 cattle that were born in other regions and raising them in Hoengseong for around two months before butchering them between 2006 and 2009. They then distributed the beef as Hoengseong hanwoo.

A district court previously delivered not-guilty verdicts, saying there was no clear standard on labelling the origin of domestically raised livestock at the time the crime occurred.

However, an appellate court in February of this year delivered eight-month prison terms or suspended prison terms for the three, saying that two months of raising the cattle in Hoengseong was not enough to label the meat Hoengseong hanwoo.

"The lower court said that cattle raised in Hoengseong for less than two months are not Hoengseong hanwoo. The ruling did not properly interpret the agricultural products quality control act," the Supreme Court said in its ruling.

The ruling, however, only applies to cases that occurred before the Ministry for Food, Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries adopted standards on place of origin for locally raised livestock.

The ministry in May of last year stipulated that livestock should be raised for more than 12 months at a certain area in order for it to be labeled as from there. (Yonhap)


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