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[Leon]

[Swampfox10mm]

You caught me in another Android edit... I added a line there.

In any case, I should add my side of things. I am a legal CCW permit holder, and can carry a gun around in my state. From my perspective, ignoring what was legal or not, Zimmerman was, at best, an idiot. Although not illegal, it was extremely stupid to follow -- I might have followed if I were in his shoes, but stayed far away. The kid could have been breaking into houses, had a gun, too, and started shooting first from across the street... so why even chance an escalation?

I was taught in my 3 day CCW class with the local police that you want to stand back and let the police handle things. Obviously. Zimmerman didn't do that. Carrying a gun is for self-protection. Zimmerman may well be found as someone who used it for offensive purposes. If so, then good. Jail him.

I was also taught that, justified or not, if I pull the trigger, my life will be changed forever. Why anyone would want to invite that kind of trouble is beyond me. A gun is for defense after all other options (running AWAY) have been exhausted. I will add, however, that there are cases where people have no chance to retreat or need to defend themselves from injury to self or loss of property. That is what Stand Your Ground laws should cover. Not Zimmerman, unless new news comes to light that changes things. In the opinion of gun advocates, SYG does not apply here. It is akin to someone robbing a bank and pleading insanity.

A lot of people on the pro-gun side think he deserves what he gets and probably more. But many are reserving judgement, as it should be. We just don't have all of the facts because the police are being very coy about releasing them.

I should add that, even though I am very pro-gun, I am also one who calls for required courses, including study of the law as part of that course. I am not a fan of states where anyone can just get a handgun and carry it. I believe it should be allowed only after proper coursework and range time. We do so with cars.

At any rate, my hopes are that neighborhood watch people would wear reflective arm bands or something similar.

[bigverne]

This article sums up the horribly biased media coverage of this incident


Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin

Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin#ixzz1prqbMCqw

Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.

So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?

Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2� football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.

http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin

As already alluded to, mainstream media coverage of this incident has been a disgrace. They are not interested in reporting facts, but in weaving a 'narrative,' and will conveniently leave out facts which do not fit this narrative, or tell outright lies.

[Leon]

[bigverne]

[Captain Corea]

Who was on top when the shooting occured seems pretty irrelevant to me. The fact that Zimmerman went against orders and pursued this suspect... Thus allowing this confrontation, weighs more on my opinion.

[Swampfox10mm]

Sure am curious why the kid got a 10 day suspension. The school won't talk. If it were for something minor, they would have no problem saying it. You just do not get a 10 day out-of-school suspension for something minor. I am not buying this perfect child scenario anymore. Doesnt change the facts of the case, but it should be out there for.some balance. Instead we get middle school photos.

[Leon]

[Captain Corea]

The race thing is a distraction. The digging up of old deeds seems mostly irrelevant.

To me, what's important is what happened that night. A young person is dead - why? And who is responsible?

[Swampfox10mm]

Agreed... But the one-sidedness of the digging is bothersome.

[Captain Corea]

I can see why you feel that way, but come on...it's pretty understandable. On the one hand you've got a kid that's dead... The other is the guy who killed him but is out "free".

I can very much understand the attention being put more in one direction.


From the onset though I've felt uncomfortable about the reporting. The first time I saw this was on NBC Nightly, and their emphasis on race sat oddly with me.

IMO, unless race is clearly a factor, I don't really see a need for it to be bright into the discussion. Sometimes, it's just a matter of one person vs another.

[Leon]

[Leon]

[Swampfox10mm]

[TheUrbanMyth]