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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
If Zimmerman was interested in a fight he would have had his pistol drawn and in his hand instead of being holstered. Who wanted the confrontation, Zimmerman or Martin?

Give it a rest.
You know nothing about the real events of their altercation...none of us do.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Why is it so hard to believe that each of these men brought baggage with them that day?


Martin was minding his own business and he had no more baggage than pretty much anyone. He was NOT a thug despite some people trying to paint him as such. I knew guys on my HS football team who had far more altercations than either of them.

Martin's death resulted from Zimmerman taking an interest in him, an interest that was confrontational and accusatory.

He was on his way home to see a father who was a known disciplinarian. The last thing on Martin's mind was to get into a fight at his father's house whom he was with because of suspension (over BS by the way).

Logic dictates that something is not right if he ends up dead and his shooter is found innocent. We weren't there. But logic and reason says something is amiss. For some to believe without any doubt whatsoever that Zimmerman is innocent is based on other stuff to any reasonable person and lets name the elephant in that room. Race. I'll get the usual posts not to harp on race by the very same who used it to judge Martin a thug and Zimmerman some kind of working man hero for whites.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Why is it so hard to believe that each of these men brought baggage with them that day?


Martin was minding his own business and he had no more baggage than pretty much anyone. He was NOT a thug despite some people trying to paint him as such. I knew guys on my HS football team who had far more altercations than either of them.

Martin's death resulted from Zimmerman taking an interest in him, an interest that was confrontational and accusatory.

He was on his way home to see a father who was a known disciplinarian. The last thing on Martin's mind was to get into a fight at his father's house whom he was with because of suspension (over BS by the way).

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Only Martin DIDN'T go to his father's house. He doubled back AFTER Zimmerman had returned to his truck and attacked Zimmerman there.
Then knocked him to the ground and began to alternately rain MMA-style blows on Zimmerman and repeatedly smash his head into the concrete.
So the facts don't really support your claim that this was "The last thing on Martin's mind". Seems more like it was the dominant overriding idea in Martin's mind.

Sounds thuggish to me.

And he wasn't going to his father's house.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3035576/posts

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Trayvon Martin had been staying with his father’s girlfriend, Brandy Green, who rented one of the units.


Here is the transcript of the call.

We can see that Zimmerman stopped chasing Martin and was going back. We can also see that he lost Martin. (see bolded portions)

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Zimmerman could see the direction Martin took but could no longer “maintain a visual” from the truck. Ambient wind sounds suggest he started walking swiftly, likely in the same direction Martin was running

GZ: The back entrance. It’s f***ing cold (garbled, much disputed).

The dispatcher obviously heard the wind sounds.

SPD: Are you following him? [2:24]

GZ: Yeah.

SPD: Okay. We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

GZ: Okay.

SPD: All right, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

GZ: George. He ran.

At this point, Zimmerman’s breathing relaxed, and the sound of wind abated.

SPD: All right, George, what’s your last name?

GZ: Zimmerman.
SPD: And George, what’s the phone number you’re calling from?

GZ: 407-435-2400.

SPD: All right, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

GZ: Yeah.

SPD: All right, where are you going to meet with them at?

GZ: Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then they go past the mailboxes they’ll see my truck.
[3:10]

SPD: All right, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]

GZ: Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]

SPD: Okay, do you live in the area?

GZ: Yeah, yeah, I live here.

SPD: Okay, what’s your apartment number?

GZ: It’s a home. It’s 1950 — oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out — I don’t know where this kid is (inaudible)
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Titus



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a&afsrc=1

A unique way to pay the bills.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
If Zimmerman was interested in a fight he would have had his pistol drawn and in his hand instead of being holstered. Who wanted the confrontation, Zimmerman or Martin?


If Zimmerman was interested in a fight, he would have had his fists up. If he was interested in defending himself from a lethal threat or shooting someone, he would have had his gun out.

I don't think he did, and I don't think Trayvon would have started a fight if he knew George Z. was packing. Clearly this started as a fistfight. It was a fistfight. George Z. brought a gun to a fistfight.

Trayvon Martin did not bring fists to a gunfight. If it was a gun fight, George Z would have his gun out and would have fired before it got to point-blank range. That and you need two people with guns to have a gunfight. Duh.

Just drop it. You clearly just spouted a bunch of nonsense. Man up and admit it.

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Sounds thuggish to me.


It's quasi-thug. It's the Diet Coke of thug.
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://celebnmusic247.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Is-George-Zimmerman-Infamy-The-Selling-Force-For-Painting-news-1218-4.jpg
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northway



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
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Sounds thuggish to me.


It's quasi-thug. It's the Diet Coke of thug.


Not if you're afraid of black people.
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Leon



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I hate to bring this topic back to life.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/showbiz/zimmerman-dmx-boxing-match/

"Seems like the former neighborhood watchman has found yet another way to remain in the public limelight.
This time, he'll be stepping into a boxing ring to fight rapper DMX.
Photos: Celebrity mugshots Photos: Celebrity mugshots
Zimmerman said the celebrity boxing match was his idea. Boxing was his hobby, he told Radar Online last month, even prior to the "incident."
The incident, of course, is the February 2012 encounter in which he shot dead an unarmed Trayvon Martin, 17. He stood trial for murder, but was acquitted.
"Prior to the incident, I was actually going to the gym for weight loss and doing boxing-type training for weight loss," he told Radar.
"A mutual friend put me in contact with Damon and provided me with an opportunity and motivation to get back in shape and continue with my weight loss goals and also be able to help a charity out."
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone's going to waste that guy if he doesn't quit playing attention-ho.
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