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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:11 pm    Post subject: New Work For Foreigners. Check The Pay Rates. Reply with quote

Foreigners Tapped to Work on Farms
by Lim Do-hyuk (dhim@chosun.com)

About 5,000 Ethnic Koreans from Central Asian countries will be invited to work here as foreign trainees in order to ease labor shortages at local farms.
The South Chungcheong province branch of the National Agricultural Cooperative Federation said Wednesday that by July the first group of trainees, about 2,500 Korean-speaking foreigners from Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyztan, Ukraine, and Mongolia, will be given work at local farms. An official at the federation said that trainees from China will also be invited once talks with Beijing pave the way.

Until the end of the month, the federation will be receiving applications from agricultural households or companies in need of manpower. The farms will need to pay W600,000 ($500) per trainee each month and provide benefits such as health care insurance. For more information contact (042) 229-6192.
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kricket



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: The Land of Kimchi and OB Beer

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you expect for unskilled labor? Also, I'm sure that the amount of money they're offering is alot more than what there making in their home countries. It's a fact of life that not everyone can make the huge amounts of money that Anda is making...

No one is holding a gun to these people's head forcing them to come. It's their choice.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, kricket. People use that same argument to defend the practice of buying organs from the poor. It's just slimy.

Korea claims to be a capitalist country. One basic law of capitalism is the law of supply and demand. Korea is short of farm laborers. It would make sense to raise the wages of farm workers (which would be reflected in prices at the grocery store) to attract workers. Importing cheap labor from China etc. while Koreans remain unemployed doesn't seem fair. The US does the same thing with imported migrant workers. It's a bad system all around.
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Captain Obvious 2.0



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Korea claims to be a capitalist country. One basic law of capitalism is the law of supply and demand. Korea is short of farm laborers. It would make sense to raise the wages of farm workers (which would be reflected in prices at the grocery store) to attract workers. Importing cheap labor from China etc. while Koreans remain unemployed doesn't seem fair. The US does the same thing with imported migrant workers. It's a bad system all around.


It isn't a money issue, it's simply that Korea is over-educated. Everyone goes to university and gets a degree. As such very few people want to be labourers. Labourers are people who can't sell their minds.

Korea also has an exceptionally low unemployment rate. Damn near everyone who wants a job gets a job. So rather than pushing up wages ten fold to lure them back, they just hire others who want the work.

My apartment which was just finished had an Iranian designer, chinese painter, a retired carpenter for the wood floor tiles, and a couple Koreans. At least, of the people I've met so far.

Don't forget, that while 600,000 seems like a mere pittance, it's ten times what these same uneducated labourers would make back home in places like western China. As well, it's a minimum wage. If they're good, they may be able to negociate for more. In the building I'm in, everyone gets a bonus if the building is finished ahead of schedule.
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marsha marsha marsha



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: At the base of a very big pyramid

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:59 pm    Post subject: Cap'n is right Reply with quote

Many workers would be delighted to get those wages, even in Korea. Koreans are so over educated, the jobs have to go to foreign workers. Its really sad. Koreans now feel they are too good to do some jobs but the gov't has refused work visas for those happy to do the DDDD work. The workers that do have those jobs manage to save more than half and send it home. Now that is amazing. They live cheap and don't spend their money the way the average Korean does and they don't have to live up to the standards that the average Korean does (paying for friends while drinking all night, wearing the right clothes etc...) so those workers will probably be better off in the end.
I personally think we should let them get visas, not just the ethnic Koreans, and work the factories and DDDD jobs. They are all doing it anyway, at least the gov't could legalize it and get some tax dollars off of it. I guess they make enough with bribes though...
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Hong Kong

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally think this is a great opportunity.. $500/month isn't bad!! I don't know what the average monthly wage is in Central Asia.. but in other regions of Asia.. its alot less..

Heck, even if you were to teach English in China as a Westerner, you wouldn't make much more than that.. right around $500/month for college-educated foreigner teaching in China..

For unskilled labor.. in places like Indonesia.. they make around $2-3 a day doing hard labor tasks.. (moving rocks from one pile to another type of thing)..

Anyhow, I think its a great opportunity!! Plus there was a thread about how little Filipinas and Russians make in the bars in Itaewon.. I don't think they make much more than that either..

Also, I can't remember, but I think the average Korean makes around $1,000 a month.. something like that.. I can't remember.. someone better inform me on that one..

I remember myself.. when I was a college student back in the States.. I worked my summers in a factory at $3.35/hour.. (minimum wage at the time - in college from 1988-1992).. you can do the math yourself on that one..
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4 months left



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cap Obvious wrote:
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It isn't a money issue, it's simply that Korea is over-educated. Everyone goes to university and gets a degree.


Ever teach in a Univ. or or talk to people who went to Univ? Maybe everyone goes to Univ. but not everyone EARNS a degree. Maybe 35%. Just like when it is reported in the news that Korea is the most wired country in the world, what is not reported the majority use of the internet is games, porn and chatting.

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Korea also has an exceptionally low unemployment rate. Damn near everyone who wants a job gets a job. Laughing


Ya, I don't think so. The unemployment rate does not reflect the current state of the economy. There are many people who have given up looking for a job. If you took the actual figures of people who are not looking for work it would be much higher than the current 2.6% or so the last time I heard.
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