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jlb · Joined: 18 Sep 2003

Masters, Celta, 5 years uni in Korea experience.

liveinkorea316 · Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea

jlb · Joined: 18 Sep 2003

Unrelated, but in the humanities. If I'm not on the "A-List," that must be why.

But, a friend of mine applied with a Masters in Education, and uni experience and she hasn't got the interview yet, so it makes me think it's early still.

naturegirl321 · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home

There's no mention of a CBC, does this mean that they're one of the few unis to actually get teachers E1s?

Daryl69 · Joined: 30 Aug 2009

Hi naturegirl321, correct, all new teaching hires are on an E1 visa (unless they have some other visa status due to naturalization or spouse).

naturegirl321 · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home

World Traveler · Joined: 29 May 2009

World Traveler · Joined: 29 May 2009

World Traveler · Joined: 29 May 2009

Daryl69 · Joined: 30 Aug 2009

Who comes up with this stuff?
The contract for Instructors was 12 weeks, cut to 10 weeks.
The contract for NTP's (being phased out) was 16 weeks, then cut to 14 weeks, then to 12 weeks. In both cases, as we no longer have camps it works out closer to 12 weeks for everyone.
None are "half the vacation time of what it was."
I have been at Yonsei for 6 years and NEVER seen a contract in Korean only. NTP's were given contracts in Korean and English.
NTP's as E1's don't get severance, but they do get an additional allowance per month. Due to law change, check that, LAW changes, severance for Instructors (as E2's) is only payable when they leave, not at the end of each contract.
The Dean is a figurehead and speaks good English, however Korean organisations as a whole are hierarchical and the person would need to speak to either a coordinator, or the Assistant Dean, who deals with the day-to-day running of the place.
Medical benefits - that was in the contract, however for Instructors, only for themselves, at Wonju Christian Hospital. For NTP's, for themselves and families, with the choice of either Wonju Christian Hospital, of Severance Hospital in Seoul. It was pointed out that this should not be in the contract as Yonsei University cannot compel a 3rd party, the hospital, to honour its contract.

But the facts don't make for such a good story...

World Traveler · Joined: 29 May 2009

Check out the job ad on Dave's:
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=64463

Vacations:
A total of 10 weeks paid vacation

That's a big amount of vacation for a university position, just as long as before?

C'mon, man- vacation has been cut, salary reduced, and contact hours increased. It's as clear as day.

Earlier in a thread, an applicant was going on about four months vacation. (Was that ever true?; I notice you didn't correct her.) That'd be 17.33333 weeks of vacation. (Significantly more than 10.)

Clearly there's been a deterioration.

The site on which I read the review: http://blacklist.tokyojon.com

...but there is a green list there, too.

Perhaps you should do one for Wonju Yonsei. (Are you the foreign recruiter there?)

Daryl69 · Joined: 30 Aug 2009

Again, Instructor (E2's) vacation went from 12 weeks to 10 weeks.
NTP's (E1's, being phased out) went from 16 weeks (never more) to 14, then finally 12 weeks. Some people roughly amounts to 4 months in the eyes of some people. But it was never more than 16 weeks.
Not half!
Salary for Instructors when I started was 2.4 million per month for 24 hours, it was cut to 2.3 million per month for 19 hours, then increased (currently) to 2.5-2.8 million won per month for 18 hours.
NTP's have had no salary cut from 3.5 million won per month, but hours increased from 15 per week to 18 per week.
I know what I am talking about I was the supervisor/coordinator and involved in the contracts and recruiting for over 3 years before stepping down.

The ESL Blacklist is a joke site, but when my attention was drawn to it, I had a great laugh about it and told the new administration coordinator about it to act on or not. No action was taken. I only commented as it was re-posted on Dave's ESL Café, which people actually read.

hogwonguy1979 · Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den

this no medical or just being able to get treatment at Severance in Seoul or the hospital there is thiisssssss far above being hogwonish. I thought as a requirement of immigration giving an E2, E1 visa that they had to enroll you in NHIC unless they designated you as an IC (which now see is illegal after the CDI case) and thats when you have to enroll in NHIC on your own.

That to me would be the almost a non-starter for me. I don't want to get my medical care at my employer, no way you can guarantee privacy of your medical records that way

my advice is stay away

Daryl69 · Joined: 30 Aug 2009

Yonsei University and its various aligned hospitals are stand-alone entities, which is why guaranteed discounted treatment at Wonju Christian Hospital or at Yonsei Severence was removed from the contract. It is a 3rd party entity that cannot be compelled to offer the 50% discount on treatment that was removed from the contract, but to my knowledge honoured without guarantee.

"hogwonguy1979", at no point has it been suggested or intimated that Yonsei University staff are not enrolled in the NHIC! ALL Yonsei staff are enrolled in the NHIC on commencement of their employment. "hogwonguy1979" and for that matter "World Traveler", I am not sure what you have to gain by spreading misinformation as if you know what the situation at Yonsei University Wonju actually is.