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GENO123



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject: ebolia could become airborne Reply with quote

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/ebola-virus-could-become-airborne-in-nightmare-scenario-un-mission-chief-warns-9770496.html
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guavashake



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is airborne, that is how it traveled to USA, by air...
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caniff



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No shit. "Hey, it'll never get over here what with our wide open borders and all".

Sheer incompetence on this scale - and this latest episode is backed up by an endless string of WTF's - just doesn't seem plausible to me. This is by design, and it's treasonous not just to the US, but to humanity itself.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By design, eh?

Quote:
But interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically. “We have so many problems with Ebola, let’s not make another one that, of course, is theoretically possible but is pretty way down on the list of likely issues," says infectious diseases expert William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University. "Everything that is happening now can easily be comprehensively explained by person-to-person spread via body contact. We don’t have to invoke anything else.”


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-the-ebola-virus-will-go-airborne/
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought a different strain of ebola had already mutated and gone airborne in a Virginia lab a decade or so ago.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stilicho25 wrote:
I thought a different strain of ebola had already mutated and gone airborne in a Virginia lab a decade or so ago.


And it had no effect on humans.
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Virginia it didn't, but later the airborne version infected a worker from a third world country right? Point taken though, its much harder to catch at least.

While its a different strain, I wouldn't be too confident that it will remain static forever. If one strain can do it, there is a chance another strain might as well, right? While I am not going to crap my pants, a general feeling of anxiety is warranted. Perhaps the same level as when large groups of morbidly obese Bama fans start to board a small dinghy.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stilicho25 wrote:
In Virginia it didn't, but later the airborne version infected a worker from a third world country right? Point taken though, its much harder to catch at least.

While its a different strain, I wouldn't be too confident that it will remain static forever. If one strain can do it, there is a chance another strain might as well, right? While I am not going to crap my pants, a general feeling of anxiety is warranted. Perhaps the same level as when large groups of morbidly obese Bama fans start to board a small dinghy.


This is news to me, as someone who is periodically terrified by various pandemics.
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston_virus

"On 11 December 2008, pigs from farms slightly north of Manila, Philippines tested positive for the virus. The CDC and the World Health Organization are investigating.[18] On 23 January 2009, Philippine health officials announced that a hog farm worker had been infected with the virus. Although the man was asymptomatic and the source of the infection is uncertain, this could represent the first case of pig-to-human transmission of Reston virus - a fact that could cause concern, as pigs may be able to transmit more deadly diseases to humans. The situation is undergoing further investigation."

My bad... he got it, but it was from contact with piggies, and their is no indication whether it was the airborne form. On another note, when did this go from being "ebola" to "reston virus". Cause I checked this out less than a year ago and it was labeled as ebola.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reston virus is the same thing as in Virginia. Humans can be infected but it's asymptomatic.
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Chaparrastique



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: ebolia could become airborne Reply with quote

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/ebola-virus-could-become-airborne-in-nightmare-scenario-un-mission-chief-warns-9770496.html

It is a nightmare scenario [that it could become airborne], and unlikely, but it can’t be ruled out.”


Neither can you rule out pigs on mars.

The interviewee engaged in some ameteurish speculation which the reporter pounced on to fill up column width.

Not every UN official is a scientific expert.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are always overreacting.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
You guys are always overreacting.


You have one poster that's overreacting to an article full of overreaction.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I'll get labled a conspiracy theorist but I'm fairly convinced ebola is man made and its habitual reacurrance is whomever, american government likely, fine tuning it.
If you wiki it, there is no known ocurrance before 1976. Any biologist can tell you, and I asked a HS classmate of mine who has a PhD in Biology about it and he said, that any virus with a kill rate that high and came on the scene that quickly is man made.
He said the spanish flu that killed 20 million around world war 1 had a much lower kill rate. The flu took thousands of years to mutate to the effectiveness it had in 1918. Where is ebola's history of mutation to get to that level of kill rate? HIV is the same. The virus appeared in two different areas, western africa and san francisco and ny gay areas around the same time and had a very high kill rate. Nothing that kils that good comes out of nowhere, a natural progression would take many, many years of being mutated.

So, if we accepted that its man made and introduced by design, then the big question is why? Why was it introduced and whom was it meant for?

On the far end of the spectrum of conspiracy theorists its believed that there is already a cure and there will be a release for a pandemic and we start over as a people with certain people. It will be used as a panacea for over-population and other things.
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny, my understanding is that a disease is successful if it can live off of its host for long enough that its host has lots of time to spread it far and wide, like the common cold. Diseases that kill you quick cannot do this. Thus the diseases that are new to man (influenza from pigs) (HIV from monkeys) and now ebola (from bats) are not adapted to people and kill them too quickly, and are unsuccesful in spreading themselves. What do I know though? I was just a 5711 in uncle sam's misguided children. Real weaponized illnesses need smoke generators or another method of dispersal to spread it far and wide.
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