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BroodingSea
Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Location: North Shields
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: Money motivated: how to make money in Korea |
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What's people's experiences in this regard. What's the best job one can likely get in ESL or related to make 3-4 m per month? A few years ago I was in incheon doing a hogwon job with some private tuition and could essentially live off my privates. Since then I've finished a PhD in a non ESL subject (it's humanities/science based) and I'm looking to get a university job in korea (ive taught english at japanese universities) or any opening that pays as much as you can get. The UK post grad market is terrible and good employment in Newcastle is practically non existent.
So how have you guys made some decent money in Korea? What sorts of roles outside the 1.8/2.0 hogwon gigs are available? |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm surprised you have a phd and you haven't figured that out yet. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Start looking for jobs in your field in any country. If you have a Phd then you should be working in that field. Wasting your time teaching English will look bad to potential employers. Take any job you can related to your Phd and get experience. It will hold you in good stead for the future. When I should have been getting experience related to my degree I wasted my time doing unrelated jobs for a quick buck. Please don't make the same mistake.
Good luck! |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Ask Mr. skinheadship, he's a racis ..er moralist you know. |
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zombiedog
Joined: 03 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:22 am Post subject: |
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i agree, why would you go through all the work getting PhuD, and then want to come to Korea where your options are asinine universities, or hagwons that don't even know what a PhD is?
IF i were you I'd go back and beg the university to take "humanities" off my document. You'll probably be unemployed until that's done. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:52 am Post subject: |
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zombiedog wrote: |
i agree, why would you go through all the work getting PhuD, and then want to come to Korea where your options are asinine universities, or hagwons that don't even know what a PhD is?
IF i were you I'd go back and beg the university to take "humanities" off my document. You'll probably be unemployed until that's done. |
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A PHD which must have cost a fortune in time and money, and you're looking at ESL in Korea???
Try the Middle East, at least they pay. |
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BroodingSea
Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Location: North Shields
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:20 am Post subject: |
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I received funding for the most part but this isn�t relevant to the points I made. As I said, post-doc opportunities in the UK are not there, PhD type jobs again � not there (e.g. I have several years research analyst experience earning good money � but these jobs are again � conspicuous in their rarity). My question is � again � to reiterate for the benefit of those above � how to make money in Korea. University jobs + associated roles and other employment opportunities. I�m not interested in hagwon roles. A university role perhaps and I have no qualms about it being ESL focused. I�d rather be in Korea for a year earning and saving decent money and enjoying good food and the overseas experience than sitting in the UK with a doctoral degree that isn�t working at the moment because uni funding is a mess and good jobs have 100+ applications. We have so many underemployed people especially in my hometown. I figure if I can make decent money using my PhD in a non-subject specific environment (ESL) then why not, at least for a year or two.
I am going to look and apply for a university role but just wondering if anyone has experience obtaining roles/opportunites that pay good salaries in ROK. |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:06 am Post subject: |
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The highest paying jobs would be tenure track university positions and test prep hagwon positions. Both would have starting salaries in the 50 million a year range and both max out at more than 100 million won a year. University positions are rare and ultra competitive but they would require much fewer working hours and provide better working conditions overall. Test prep hagwons are probably be easier to get, though still not easy, and would probably actually pay more in the beginning, but you'd be putting in long hours, especially during intensives. Besides, most test prep hagwons have an American bias anyway. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know when you were here, but the market has changed a lot since then. More competitive, worse exchange rates, and flat wages. Come over if you wish, but don't be too picky. If you are, wait a long time and maybe something will come up. Best of luck either way. |
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drydell
Joined: 01 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Focus all your energy on teaching your discipline at Korean uni level rather than be distracted by the ESL uni jobs.. There are hundreds of universities in Korea - have you visited all their websites? Find the websites that list the dept uni jobs as they come up too..
Pay extra attention to the universities of foreign studies...
I'd like to be in your position right now .. Teaching non-esl dept position here... Now is the time to have a non- English phd here.. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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The highest paying jobs would be tenure track university positions and test prep hagwon positions |
He's not interested in hagwans and presumably wants to work legally. otherwise you might as well just tell him to get as many privates he can for 100,000 an hour.
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MetaFitX
Joined: 23 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lulz at Ph.Der's needing to come to Korea to make money working in hogwons. LOL. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I would imagine a PhD or MA in anything other than an "applied field" would be as economically useless as a BA in the same subject.
That includes the pure sciences, too, not just sociology, etc.
The OP should say what his PhD is in.
He should try for a non-ESL position in a university, but I can only imagine that's ultra competitive since grad degrees now are a dime a dozen.
Working in Hogwan or Public School with a PhD singing children's songs... that would make him a suicide risk I think... |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
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The highest paying jobs would be tenure track university positions and test prep hagwon positions |
He's not interested in hagwans and presumably wants to work legally. otherwise you might as well just tell him to get as many privates he can for 100,000 an hour. |
Edward, there is nothing intrinsically illegal about working at a hagwon. And he said he is not interested in hagwons under the assumption that they all pay around 2.0 million won a month. That is not the case. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Edward, there is nothing intrinsically illegal about working at a hagwon. And he said he is not interested in hagwons under the assumption that they all pay around 2.0 million won a month. That is not the case. |
There is plenty illegal about working at one hagwan full time as an independent contractor, as you know full well. I don't really understand why the MODS don't ban people from discussing it. As they do with privates |
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