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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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You guys don't have to be so bitter about everything.
Personally I think the US and KR and most counties have a sucky education system. More about brainwashing than enlightenment.
Meh but good for KR, who cares. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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What a joke. Not a single nobel prize. Not even a nomination. Their entire modernity was imported wholesale from the West. Not one contribution to humanity's collective knowledge of the world. No inventions. Nothing.
LOL. |
Bloody hell, take a vacation, man. A long one. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ajoshi and ajumma are products of the world's second best educational system?
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timhorton
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to see another study that includes:
1) Creativity
2) Childrens Rights
3) Consistency
4) Bribing Principals
5) Parental Influence
6) etc, etc
Then, tell me if they would rank #2. The number of high schools graduates/university graduates has absolutely nothing to do with an effective education system. There are so many other variables. Any education system that exisits for the purposes of just passing exams ranks the lowest of the lowest |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Damn! That's unreal. Are they fighting because it looks like the girl tries to slap the teacher? Why is a teacher fighting his student? It looks like the girl is trying to defend herself after he has thrown her around. I wonder what happened just before it got to this. Surely after that the guy has to be sacked. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Just recently saw some a of documentary on High School in South Korea, on youtube, didn't need to watch it, really. The 16 hours of study a day, the suicides and attempts, the stress; doesn't sound like a great system. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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transmogrifier wrote: |
Scorpion wrote: |
What a joke. Not a single nobel prize. Not even a nomination. Their entire modernity was imported wholesale from the West. Not one contribution to humanity's collective knowledge of the world. No inventions. Nothing.
LOL. |
Bloody hell, take a vacation, man. A long one. |
Facts are stubborn little buggers. Telling a poster to "take a vacation' in no way alters the glaring gap between (a) the assertion that Korea has the second best educational system in the world and (b) the fact that 555 nobel prizes have been handed out over the years, but none to a graduate of the Korean educational system. I think that discrepancy needs some explaing. Apparently you don't. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Having survived the Korean education system, I really don't care how terrible it is. Something needs to keep the population in check.
Seoulman69 wrote: |
Damn! That's unreal. Are they fighting because it looks like the girl tries to slap the teacher? Why is a teacher fighting his student? It looks like the girl is trying to defend herself after he has thrown her around. I wonder what happened just before it got to this. Surely after that the guy has to be sacked. |
times sure have changed. Back in my day, that wasn't "shocking." It was normal. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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In other news Obama wins the noble peace prize.
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: extremes |
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I think it's a case of extremes. On one hand you have Finland at the top with a educational system of "let the kids learn what they like and are good at" as opposed to making them learn math because its good for them to know that. Then you have Korea, where the focus is cram as many facts and terms and information as humanly possible in the brain. Make them students for long periods of time and mandate that if you don't do then you can't succeed. The extremes have won out in my opinion leaving the others in the middle of the rankings. I think the question is, should we go with the extremes in education or the countries that have the middle ground? |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Scorpion wrote: |
transmogrifier wrote: |
Scorpion wrote: |
What a joke. Not a single nobel prize. Not even a nomination. Their entire modernity was imported wholesale from the West. Not one contribution to humanity's collective knowledge of the world. No inventions. Nothing.
LOL. |
Bloody hell, take a vacation, man. A long one. |
Facts are stubborn little buggers. Telling a poster to "take a vacation' in no way alters the glaring gap between (a) the assertion that Korea has the second best educational system in the world and (b) the fact that 555 nobel prizes have been handed out over the years, but none to a graduate of the Korean educational system. I think that discrepancy needs some explaing. Apparently you don't. |
No, I'm reacting to you, individually, and the amount of bile you cover every thread with, day in, day out. It can't be healthy hating things so much. That's why, take a vacation. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Unibrow wrote: |
I swear there are only two extremes on Daves. Either Korea is terrible or Korea is wonderful. No middle ground. |
True, though I think that's a reflection of Korea; it's a very extreme country in many ways. Many Koreans have polarised views of Korea too, so it's not even an expat-only thing.
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Having survived the Korean education system, I really don't care how terrible it is. Something needs to keep the population in check. |
I'm not sure what you mean by this: Are you saying the Korean people need to be controlled by their supposed betters like some kind of animal herd? I think people should be left alone to exercise their liberty insofar as they do not infringe on the rights of others. Have I misunderstood your meaning? |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of people seem upset by Korea being number one and attribute it to some kind of skewed rating system, but why isn't anyone angry about Finland being at the top then? I say give credit where it's due. The people here sacrifice so much for education, way more than I'm willing to sacrifice. I'm not sure how their best and brightest stand against the best and brightest, but across the board I'm going to assume their worst students are much better than the worst students I have seen in the USA. Suicides, bullying, studying to exhaustion and depression, do I sound harsh if I say that I would prefer those to the negative aspects of schools in the USA? Murder, widespread gang violence, and suicides are what we see in the USA...at the least the Koreans have something to show for it in their scores instead of just a bunch of lip service about how American students are more mature and worldly.
Here's something else to think about, maybe Koreans don't care about a bunch of western pat ourselves on the back awards like the nobel peace prize. The students here break their backs compared to students in the West. Don't be mad it turned up results. Maybe instead of knocking them we should do what they did a long time ago when they decided to look at what the west was doing right with education, maybe we should look at their model. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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fermentation wrote: |
Having survived the Korean education system, I really don't care how terrible it is. Something needs to keep the population in check. |
I'm not sure what you mean by this: Are you saying the Korean people need to be controlled by their supposed betters like some kind of animal herd? I think people should be left alone to exercise their liberty insofar as they do not infringe on the rights of others. Have I misunderstood your meaning?[/quote]
What I meant was that the stress put on people by the system contributes to the high rate of suicide, and that can to prevent over-population. I think it's better we have depressed kids killing themselves over hurting others. I'm not a teenager, teacher or parent, so this affects me very little and I think people are making a bigger deal of this than it really is.
I was joking though. Kind of. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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naaa
Korea is based on Hakwons. the actual education in the schools here are terrible!!!! really robotic memorization styles. they learn nothing |
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