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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| sublunari wrote: |
| Have you attempted to converse with them in their own language, rather than a second language that for most of them is extraordinarily difficult to learn? Are you capable of translating this sentence into Korean on your own? |
He didn't say they were idiots. He said the conversations were boring.
The conversations are boring because he's only been in Korea for a year or two and probably isn't QUITE fluent in the local language yet. Despite this, his coworker considers him to be racist for not wanting to date Koreans.
More importantly though, there's nothing wrong with not being physically attracted to ethnic Koreans regardless of their English ability. There were a lot of things I didn't like about the OP's post, but the above was a non-issue. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Say you prefer Japanese women. Though men probably won't care, women will.  |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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IMO mixed race people are ussually hot.
Whether it be black/white or asian/white. Where I grew up mixed race people were very popular. They were more popular than non-mixed race people.
BTW I like muticulturalism, it's so much more fun to hangout with different types of people and the food in muti-ethnic socieities is so tasty. I'm sorry if this go against the hate on Davesesl for anything muticultural. I would like to live in a place that is multicultural. Check out Columbia MD if you want to see muticulturism as a success. In the 1960's when Columbia was founded the developers had a hard time selling the properties because people didn't want to live in mutiracial area but today Columbia is one of the richest areas in the Baltimore-Washington area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia,_Maryland
"In 2006, Money magazine ranked Columbia (together with Ellicott City, its neighbor to the north) #4 out of the 100 "Best Places to Live" in the United States.[11] In 2008, Columbia and Ellicott City were ranked #8 on this list.[12] In 2010, Columbia and Ellicott City were ranked #2 on this list. In 2012, Columbia and Ellicott City were ranked #8 on this list."
'According to a 2007 estimate, the median income for a household in the CDP was $94,966, and the median income for a family was $107,210.'
http://www.columbiaarchives.org/?action=content.sub&page=history_community3&oid=1
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| The term racism is so freely and emotionally used these days that it has no real meaning at all. Actual racism requires an ideological sense of superiority. Preferring a given race for your romantic relationships is not racism, not even quasi-racism. Even the notion that you don't want to sire mixed-race children, while perhaps offensive to some insecure people, is not racist. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| The term racism is so freely and emotionally used these days that it has no real meaning at all. Actual racism requires an ideological sense of superiority. Preferring a given race for your romantic relationships is not racism, not even quasi-racism. Even the notion that you don't want to sire mixed-race children, while perhaps offensive to some insecure people, is not racist. |
Oh, I don't know. I think racial discrimination is a very real thing. And it doesn't always have to do with feeling of superiority. "Equal, yet separate" race policies would still be considered racist by a lot of folks. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| The term racism is so freely and emotionally used these days that it has no real meaning at all. Actual racism requires an ideological sense of superiority. Preferring a given race for your romantic relationships is not racism, not even quasi-racism. Even the notion that you don't want to sire mixed-race children, while perhaps offensive to some insecure people, is not racist. |
Oh, I don't know. I think racial discrimination is a very real thing. And it doesn't always have to do with feeling of superiority. |
Not hiring fat people is also a real thing, but it's not "fatism." Not hiring ugly people is also a real thing, but it's not "uglism." People have preferences. That's a completely normal, human thing. Not all of those preferences revolve purely and only around demonstrable economic efficiency. Racism is something -- needs to be something -- more than simple in-group preference.
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| "Equal, yet separate" race policies would still be considered racist by a lot of folks. |
I know they would, but those people generally have an agenda. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I don't know. I'm pretty cool with rules that forbid racial/ethnic/physical discrimination.
Not hiring a person because they are fat... yeah, I can see why that'd run afoul of many ppl - including some nation's laws. Kind of off topic though.
IMO, Racism is more than just a belief in superiority, it's also a prejudice against others based on race/ethnicity. Posts in this thread very much walk that line. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Life is offline.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| If an employer or someone is racist in their public life, that's an issue. But in the OPs case, he's talking about his private life, so to me that's his choice. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| If an employer or someone is racist in their public life, that's an issue. But in the OPs case, he's talking about his private life, so to me that's his choice. |
And then, isn't it our choice how to feel about it?
I mean, I've known people that might be called "racist" to varying degrees, and it's my call of how I want to feel about it, and how I want them to be a part of my life.
For example, if I knew someone who felt strongly against mixed children, they would have no place in my life. I wouldn't want them around me or my family. They can feel that way all they want... just don't have to hang with 'em. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, it's our choice about how to feel about it.
But if he doesn't want to date Korean women/be racist, that's his choice. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Sure, it's our choice about how to feel about it.
But if he doesn't want to date Korean women/be racist, that's his choice. |
Was anybody discussing taking that choice away from him? |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Is it because they aren't very unique and I'm not talking about just appearance? Though, it can be difficult when you don't know what's real or not.
Tourists Baffled...
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/03/15/2013031500952.html
"Many tourists who visited the Gangnam or Itaewon districts of Seoul tell their tour guides that Korean women are beautiful but ask why they look and dress the same," said a Cosmojin Tour staffer. "For many foreigners, who value individuality and uniqueness...," |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| Check out Columbia MD if you want to see muticulturism as a success |
Surely the exception to the rule? |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
"What do you think of Korea women?" Is such a loaded question.
I guess the best answer is that you believe they are the most beautiful women in the world but your girlfriend is white.
Seriously though the only other time I've heard this being an issue is with foreign women here. I've heard a surprising number of foreign gals simply state that they don't find Korean men attractive. I don't know how anyone can simply right off an entire ethnic group as not attractive. To each their own of course. |
my theory is that most of the foreign women here tend to be larger in size and personality, two things that don't mesh with with most korean men. as well, korean men tend to be smaller and dominating, two things that don't mesh well with most foreign women. thusly the disparities lead to people being "unattracted" to each other.
as for why korean women tend to be popular with foreign men, it is pretty much because they are opposite of my description of foreign women.
at least in my eyes, when you boil it down to the absolute simplest way to describe it, it paints a pretty clear picture. |
dumbS, that's the kind of thinking that gets you no where.
btw isn't the OP (metalhead) the same guy who got punched in the face for being stupid? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Gyeongsangnam-do, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Accusing someone of being racist just because they don't want to date someone of that ethnicity is like accusing someone of being racist just because they don't like a country's traditional dress or cuisine. It's meaningless. It's just a preference.
Now if there are deeper and more virulently expressed reasons for not dating someone of that ethnicity, then yes, it's possibly racist.
And I'm sure the OP is open to an exceptional Korean woman just as they might like the odd Bengali traditional outfit or Ecuadorean dish. |
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