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Why there is so much prostitution in Korea
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
Thoughtfully addressed? You've got to be kidding. You come across as a self-righteous, patronizing bore

Sounds like you just described yourself perfectly. If I had to name the most self-righteous, most patronizing, most boring poster on this site...

...it would be a tie between you an PatrickGHBusan. You are unbelievably pretentious tiger fancini, forever bragging about how you got a university job (back when university jobs were easy to get). Too bad you contribute nothing insightful to this site (though you think you do). Just simplistic insults and apologism. Have you ever articulated (with specifics) how to be a good teacher? No, you haven't. So what makes you think you are Mother Teresa for posting on here and the world's best teacher? You suck big time, tiger fancini. You are extremely obnoxious and pompous.
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joelove



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lot. Guess there's enough willing to pay and enough willing to take that money. Some girls do pretty well too. Not really thinking about Korea here, but in some countries even educated women (and men) are paid lousy salaries. Some of the girls might even be able to get jobs as nurses or teachers or whatever, but the money just isn't good. Some just do it sometimes for extra cash. Let's say maybe you can make a month's pay in just a few nights or a week and maybe the work isn't really all that hard or unpleasant, usually. Tempting.
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Waygeek



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
No. Completely sober. I take it you apologist bros don't like what I typed and would rather the issue be swept under the rug than thoughtfully addressed?


Random half-arsed assumptions do not a thoughtful address make.
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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
Your hypothesis is an interesting one...


No, it's not.

It exists because it has existed for millions of years in one form of another. Women are driving it, because they want to make money, and it's a skill they have, that they can trade on.


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KimchiNinja



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
No. Completely sober. I take it you apologist bros don't like what I typed and would rather the issue be swept under the rug than thoughtfully addressed?


Random half-arsed assumptions do not a thoughtful address make.


Well put, and extra points for Yoda speak.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
No. Completely sober. I take it you apologist bros don't like what I typed and would rather the issue be swept under the rug than thoughtfully addressed?


As an apologist, I thought your post was fine. There was nothing "anti-Korea" or hating on Korean culture. On the contrary it offered a rather straight forward explanation- A guy on the streets after getting tanked, notices a house of ill-repute and being inebriated, decides to blow a few hundred bucks there.

In your post you mentioned how bad judgments happen from drunken men the world over, including yourself.

I don't see anything wrong with the OP that merits screaming over. In fact, it could be used as a case study in how to write a post examining an aspect of life in Korea, without making a bigoted filled bash.

The OP offers an attempt at rational explanations, understands that this is a problem that manifests itself in various forms around the world, is humble enough to realize his own faults in this area, and credits that such problems aren't through the inherent evil of Koreans, but may be the case of a single guy walking home and making a dumb choice, and this phenomenon occurring across the country. In fact the next day, the guy may even be totally disgusted with what happened.

That's not to say that his conclusions are well researched and authoritative. You can dismiss his conclusions. Just that this isn't a thread that should be put in the basher category.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
You are unbelievably pretentious tiger fancini, forever bragging about how you got a university job (back when university jobs were easy to get)


I've never worked in a university and have never claimed to do so. It seems that in your little tantrum, you have confused me with someone else. Had you had a little alcohol when you posted that? You've already admitted to making horrendous errors of judgment when having had a sniff of the barmaids apron. Perhaps you could add confusing posters on Daves to your (classic) list of bitter regrets.
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rollo



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People like sex!! Go to any Western country and look at all the Gentle men's clubs, open a phone book look under escorts and there will be several pages. People like sex.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the OP's hypothesis was correct, then the UK would be wall-to-wall hookers on every street.
Alcohol isn't the cause of prostitution in Korea, but I agree that booze-addled decision-making certainly contributes to it.
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Waygeek



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:

As an apologist


Dude, no. You're just not racist, or a generally happy person who is capable of finding happiness in most situations. 'Apologist' is a derogatory term for racists to use against us.

tiger fancini wrote:

I've never worked in a university and have never claimed to do so.


All that egg on your face WorldTraveller...
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
It seems that in your little tantrum, you have confused me with someone else.

Time and again, you post things to like, "The reason why I have a great and wonderful English teaching job and you don't is because I am so much better than you. People get good jobs according to their worth. Blah, blah, blah..." So what is this amazing ESL teaching job you got (due to being such an amazing person)? University jobs are the best jobs around. (So I assumed that's what you were bragging about, as many of the pretentious middle aged lifers on Dave's often do.) Tell us what your credentials are and what job you have. Regardless, good jobs in Korea and elsewhere in the ESL world (no matter what the good job) were much easier to get in the past than now. (That's a fact.)
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As Colombia has gradually opened up more to the world and more foreigners have arrived there, pay and benefits have come down quite a lot in the last 20 years (a decent high school contract paid at least 50% more 20 years ago than it does now). In the past, somebody with a CELTA, degree and a year of experience could jump into a very well paid, very senior position. Now, you would need 10-20 years experience (most of it in-country), a relevant masters degree and a lot of luck for such a position.

And since you think my writing is so bad, perhaps you can show us all how it should be done- "Why there is so much prostitution in Korea" by tiger fancini. That is, if you are capable of expressing a cogent thought beyond short simplistic insults. Are you? We will find out now.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
No. Completely sober. I take it you apologist bros don't like what I typed and would rather the issue be swept under the rug than thoughtfully addressed?


As an apologist, I thought your post was fine. There was nothing "anti-Korea" or hating on Korean culture. .


Except that the title/content of his post was dealing solely with Korea and Korean men. If he'd just made a general claim about men all over the world you might be able to claim that.

But nope he focused solely on Korea and worse yet made the claim that alcohol is the reason why there is so much prostitution in Korea.

As another poster noted (albeit sarcastically)

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If the OP's hypothesis was correct, then the UK would be wall-to-wall hookers on every street.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
No. Completely sober. I take it you apologist bros don't like what I typed and would rather the issue be swept under the rug than thoughtfully addressed?


As an apologist, I thought your post was fine. There was nothing "anti-Korea" or hating on Korean culture. .


Except that the title/content of his post was dealing solely with Korea and Korean men. If he'd just made a general claim about men all over the world you might be able to claim that.

But nope he focused solely on Korea and worse yet made the claim that alcohol is the reason why there is so much prostitution in Korea.

As another poster noted (albeit sarcastically)

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If the OP's hypothesis was correct, then the UK would be wall-to-wall hookers on every street.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korea's alcohol consumption rate is higher than the U.K.'s.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
South Korea's alcohol consumption rate is higher than the U.K.'s.


You need to show some stats when making these claims. You might be right of course, but Britain is quite famous for getting its drink on - and not so famous for whoremongering.
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