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ivplus6



Joined: 17 Mar 2014

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: More success with using recruiter or without? Reply with quote

Anyone out there who has had a job or who has a job currently working in Korea:

Did you use a recruiter, or did you just apply directly to the company itself?

Have you done both (used a recruiter for one job, no recruiter for another)? And if so, which did you find more success with?

Is a recruiter worth it? Do they actually make the process easier and make sure that you're taken care of, or are they just kind of bothersome and constantly in your life?

Sorry for the all the questions, I'm just trying to make sure that I don't get scammed and that I can get the best experience for my first teaching job abroad! Confused Cool Shocked
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: More success with using recruiter or without? Reply with quote

ivplus6 wrote:
Anyone out there who has had a job or who has a job currently working in Korea:

(1) Did you use a recruiter, or did you just apply directly to the company itself?

(2) Have you done both (used a recruiter for one job, no recruiter for another)? And if so, which did you find more success with?

(3) Is a recruiter worth it? Do they actually make the process easier and make sure that you're taken care of, or are they just kind of bothersome and constantly in your life?

Sorry for the all the questions, I'm just trying to make sure that I don't get scammed and that I can get the best experience for my first teaching job abroad! Confused Cool Shocked


Numbers added for clarity.

(1) Use a recruiter. They cost you nothing. Not using one (MANY), unless you are applying directly to EPIK, can cost you many opportunities (unless you can read Korean and can navigate places like Naver.)

(2) See (1).

(3) Once you are placed, they are out of your life.

They are all good and they are all bad.

Every recruiter out there has some happy customers and some who are not happy for any number of reasons.

BUT

They are an introduction to a potential employer that you yourself would not otherwise be able to find.

Then, if they are any good at their job (individually, not the firm), they guide you through the placement and assist with the paperwork necessary to get you as far as the employer.

They are NOT your friend.
They do NOT work for you (they are paid for and work for the employer).


They are like a used car salesman.
You walk onto their car-lot (website), peruse the cars (available jobs), if you see one you like you inquire about it.

After you listen to the sales pitch you let YOUR mechanic have a look at it (due diligence checking out the school).

If it is all good then you make the offer (accept the contract) and complete the sale (begin the paperwork for your visa application).

A good salesman will ensure that the paperwork is in order to make the sale and allow you to register the car. (A good recruiter will make sure your paperwork is in order and help get you through the paperwork to get your visa.)

I have no problem with using a recruiter or telling anyone else to use one (or more the case, many). They are your best option for fining the BEST fit when it comes to a job in Korea (or most of Asia for that matter).

For someone who is abroad, no connections and no ability to communicate in Korean then recruiters are a necessary evil.

That doesn't mean it is a crap shoot.

ALL recruiters are good. All recruiters are bad.
BUT they are a bridge to a job that you would not otherwise find.

The trick is in understanding what they are and what they do then understanding that due diligence is YOUR responsibility BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.

7777.
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ivplus6



Joined: 17 Mar 2014

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: More success with using recruiter or without? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
ivplus6 wrote:
Anyone out there who has had a job or who has a job currently working in Korea:

(1) Did you use a recruiter, or did you just apply directly to the company itself?

(2) Have you done both (used a recruiter for one job, no recruiter for another)? And if so, which did you find more success with?

(3) Is a recruiter worth it? Do they actually make the process easier and make sure that you're taken care of, or are they just kind of bothersome and constantly in your life?

Sorry for the all the questions, I'm just trying to make sure that I don't get scammed and that I can get the best experience for my first teaching job abroad! Confused Cool Shocked


Numbers added for clarity.

(1) Use a recruiter. They cost you nothing. Not using one (MANY), unless you are applying directly to EPIK, can cost you many opportunities (unless you can read Korean and can navigate places like Naver.)

(2) See (1).

(3) Once you are placed, they are out of your life.

They are all good and they are all bad.

Every recruiter out there has some happy customers and some who are not happy for any number of reasons.

BUT

They are an introduction to a potential employer that you yourself would not otherwise be able to find.

Then, if they are any good at their job (individually, not the firm), they guide you through the placement and assist with the paperwork necessary to get you as far as the employer.

They are NOT your friend.
They do NOT work for you (they are paid for and work for the employer).


They are like a used car salesman.
You walk onto their car-lot (website), peruse the cars (available jobs), if you see one you like you inquire about it.

After you listen to the sales pitch you let YOUR mechanic have a look at it (due diligence checking out the school).

If it is all good then you make the offer (accept the contract) and complete the sale (begin the paperwork for your visa application).

A good salesman will ensure that the paperwork is in order to make the sale and allow you to register the car. (A good recruiter will make sure your paperwork is in order and help get you through the paperwork to get your visa.)

I have no problem with using a recruiter or telling anyone else to use one (or more the case, many). They are your best option for fining the BEST fit when it comes to a job in Korea (or most of Asia for that matter).

For someone who is abroad, no connections and no ability to communicate in Korean then recruiters are a necessary evil.

That doesn't mean it is a crap shoot.

ALL recruiters are good. All recruiters are bad.
BUT they are a bridge to a job that you would not otherwise find.

The trick is in understanding what they are and what they do then understanding that due diligence is YOUR responsibility BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.

7777.


Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate any and all input. :]
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are already in Korea, I think Facebook is good. I have gotten a job through Korean job searching type groups.
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