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Leon
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 Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Dewayne Jones has African American ancestry. Zimmerman was a white hispanic according to the media so why can't Jones be a white black? |
Like I said, we will see, but Zimmerman looked like a mix between white and Hispanic, but based on the one picture, the kids really white. It's possible he's not, but to assume otherwise based on that picture is trying to make it fit a narritive.
Also, you do realize that there really are white Hispanics, because Hispanic denotes a language category rather than a racial one, right? |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| ghostrider wrote: |
| I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Dewayne Jones has African American ancestry. Zimmerman was a white hispanic according to the media so why can't Jones be a white black? |
Like I said, we will see, but Zimmerman looked like a mix between white and Hispanic, but based on the one picture, the kids really white. It's possible he's not, but to assume otherwise based on that picture is trying to make it fit a narritive.
Also, you do realize that there really are white Hispanics, because Hispanic denotes a language category rather than a racial one, right? |
Like Cameron Diaz and Martin Sheen. |
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Swampfox10mm
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Obama is as much a white black as Zimmerman is a white hispanic (or latino). |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Some calls for a boycott already.
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The indiscriminate shooting of Christopher Lane, a 23-year-old Australian who was living his dream of studying in the United States on a baseball scholarship, has repulsed many in his home country and led to calls for Australian tourists to boycott the United States.
"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," former Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer told CNN's Piers Morgan.
"People thinking of going to the USA for business or tourist trips should think carefully about it given the statistical fact you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in Australia per capita per million people."
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ghostrider
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Leon
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Titus
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
How is this related to the case? Until we know, isn't it much more likely that the boy who looks white is white, rather than the relatively rare mixed race person who looks white. Also, if they hate whitey why are they hanging out with this, at least half, white kid. |
My fully white brother hangs out with black people who profess to hate whites. Are you seriously going to take the, "Hey, some of my best friends are black," defense and invert it here? |
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Titus
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Frankly, I don't care if this was "racially" motivated or not. I don't care why the male, teenage participants of urban black culture decide to randomly kill people; the fellow would be just as dead no matter their motive, and whatever their motive happened to be, it was probably superficial anyway. Whatever reason they may profess, it's entirely secondary to their internal character, which is of a sort that some minor stimulus or another can result in them murdering a stranger. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
How is this related to the case? Until we know, isn't it much more likely that the boy who looks white is white, rather than the relatively rare mixed race person who looks white. Also, if they hate whitey why are they hanging out with this, at least half, white kid. |
My fully white brother hangs out with black people who profess to hate whites. Are you seriously going to take the, "Hey, some of my best friends are black," defense and invert it here? |
No, It might be possible. It wouldn't surprise me if that was it, but we don't really know if it was racial or not. It was more in response to the narrative that was immediately formed that it had to be about race, and where you had news outlets reporting that all three teenagers were black, and showing a picture of a random black dude instead of the white guy it really was. See below for that
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-and-friends-daily-caller-falsely-report-3-black-teens-arrested-in-chris-lane-murder/
And you see it also on this thread where you have someone who is clearly white, and the police have come out and confirmed they were white, but people are trying to make a case that the guy is probably half black and linking to picture of pale half black people.
I mean they came out and said they did it because they were bored, it's not like they have any shame or are lying to make themselves look better. I think if it was because they hated whitey, they wouldn't really have a problem coming out and saying that. |
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Titus
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Leon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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It's funny because you say you people talking about the white guy, when pretty much everyone else on the thread was trying to make it out that the person was mixed. Also, while I agree Gawker and Salon are insipid and I dislike people who read them and think like that, ideologically retarded compared to what, reactionaries? Talking to walls as compared to people advocating authoritarianism? What is the baseline here for correct ideological thinking? You figure those types of people at 10% or so, but that is still probably more than the numbers of the true, ideologically correct, reactionary. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense:
(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.
(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.
(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).
(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.
(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.
(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.
(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.
(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving. |
Overall this is actually pretty advice. 10g is the only one I'd really disagree with, simply because the character of all politicians deserves maximum scrutiny.
Then again, I'm pretty down with the proposed boycott suggested by the Australian fellow as well. |
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