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| Do you use "take a rest" and "frankly speaking"? |
| I don't use either expression |
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| I only use "frankly speaking" |
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| I only use "take a rest" |
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mayorhaggar
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| Take a rest sounds normal to this American too, but you'd only say it after doing something like exercise. If Koreans are using it for going to sleep then yeah that is weird. |
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mayorhaggar
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Engrish Mufffin wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
My issue this week is vocab and expressions being shoe-horned in some where.
"Thus, he tried to ascend the corporate ladder"
Now, no real issues with that sentence as written, but it was part of a casual dialogue. Am I missing out on this type of conversation, because seriously, I don't think people usually talk like this. |
Yeah so much vocabulary is forced. I wanted to make another thread about bad English textbooks in Korea (especially written by Koreans). There's a Kakao English book and the entire book is full of incoherent conversations that would never take place. |
American child: "I don't feel well."
American doctor: "You should drink some warm water!" |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^No insurance? |
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Engrish Mufffin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
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| I'd say "take a break." |
That would only apply if you were intending to go back to work in the near future. If you were done for the day, you certainly wouldn't be "taking a break" |
If they were going home then I'd say "get some rest." |
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Engrish Mufffin
Joined: 09 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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EDIT: As someone already mentioned, you have to search with the quotes to get accurate results.
However, I never knew about this site and it's an awesome resource. Not sure if they include TV shows, but if they did it would make it even more awesome. I was collecting my own subtitles to do this type of search, but looks like I don't have to now.
This is great for getting natural sentence examples, unlike a lot of examples from ESL textbooks which force the meaning.
EDIT2: A lot of the ones for frankly speaking are from Japanese/Korean/foreign films:
http://www.subzin.com/search.php?title=&imdb=&q=frankly+speaking&search_sort=Newest&genre=-1&type=All |
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Allthechildrenareinsane
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
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Engrish Mufffin
Joined: 09 Jun 2013
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If nothing, I learned about 2 new useful tools in this thread, the goolge corpus search and the movie quote search site 
Interesting that the term "take a break" used to apparently not be used. I wonder what they said instead? |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:39 am Post subject: |
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spoken vs written perhaps. But what it shows is pretty consistent use for the last hundred years while the other two took off in the 80s. |
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Engrish Mufffin
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alongway
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Engrish Mufffin
Joined: 09 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
You can't remotely try and compare "Frankly" and "honestly"
with full phrases. They are individual words that appear in other situations.
You can't get an accurate picture of their usage at all like that.
This is critical thinking 101. |
It's case sensitive, so I capitalized them to reflect their usage at the beginning of a sentence.
Reading comprehension before critical thinking.
"Honestly" is also more of a spoken phrase than a written one. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Engrish Mufffin wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
You can't remotely try and compare "Frankly" and "honestly"
with full phrases. They are individual words that appear in other situations.
You can't get an accurate picture of their usage at all like that.
This is critical thinking 101. |
It's case sensitive, so I capitalized them to reflect their usage at the beginning of a sentence.
Reading comprehension before critical thinking. |
conjunctions.
you don't capitalize yet they're used the same way
http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=To+be+honest%2Cto+be+honest%2C+Frankly%2C+frankly&year_start=1900&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=5&share=
it's impossible to know exactly what is being used here in this case and in what meaning. While the use of just Frankly is pretty clear, frankly could be anywhere, the same with Honestly and honestly |
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