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Gyeonggi province will cut half of the NETs next year
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
TUM, she does not currently have a felony conviction on her record.



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Misconceptions

The most common miconrception is that felonies "drop off" after a certain amount of time, like traffic tickets. In reality, felonies are forever, once they go into the computer. Records are likely to exist in multiple computers, from the local jurisdiction where the offender is sentenced, to the National Crime Information Center, the database maintained by the FBI.



Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_5417324_long-felony-charge-stay-record.html#ixzz2ovJwsLcs


A pardon negates the punishment but does not delete the records.


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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUM, how about this: if she has a felony conviction on her record, I will leave Dave's. If she doesn't, you will leave Dave's. (I'll be charitable and make this deal for just one week again. Deal?)
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
TUM, how about this: if she has a felony conviction on her record, I will leave Dave's. If she doesn't, you will leave Dave's. (I'll be charitable and make this deal for just one week again. Deal?)



I've already linked to multiple sources which say that a pardon does not equate to erasing the records.

And we should take this to PM if you want to go further with this...since it's just the two of us talking now.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://thegrio.com/2011/09/07/charges-lessened-in-ohio-school-fake-address-case/
See you in a week, er…two weeks?_? !_! @_@
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice try but I never agreed to the deal. Plus she still needs to have the conviction stricken in order to teach...which was one of the issues we were debating.

And you were also wrong about her being a teacher.

From your link above

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Singleton said the decision will make it easier for Williams-Bolar to keep her job as a teacher’s aide and to ultimately apply to have the conviction struck from her record



She's an aide and her job could still be in question.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUM, you're a teaching assistant at a public school. Would you say you are not a real teacher? You teach, don't you?

The article was talking about having the misdemeanors (not felonies, but felonies which had been changed to misdemeanors) stricken from her record. First time offenders can do that through the ARC program (as long as they are non violent offenses). (That's why first time offenders try so hard to plea down from a felony to a misdemeanor (and pay big bucks to a lawyer to try to get that to happen). So they can be eligible for that.) My link about the pardon was from 2011. Yes, at that time she was a teacher's aide. Now, it appears she is teaching in public school in some capacity, either as teacher's aide or a fully licensed teacher. (Either way she is still teaching and working for the public school system.)
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Nice try but I never agreed to the deal.

No, you absolutely did. These were your exact words (which you quickly deleted after you found out you were wrong):

DEAL.
But you must PROVE she does not have a felony conviction on her record.


I proved it. Maybe you should take your own advice, 12ax7:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Give it a rest. Just admit that you were wrong.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Nice try but I never agreed to the deal.

No, you absolutely did. These were your exact words (which you quickly deleted after you found out you were wrong):

DEAL.
But you must PROVE she does not have a felony conviction on her record.


I proved it. Maybe you should take your own advice, 12ax7:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Give it a rest. Just admit that you were wrong.


What? This post makes no sense.

Speaking of deals are you going to keep the last deal you made with me over the TOPIK Level 3 question?
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No sense? I saw what you wrote. So did others. And yes, you are similar to 12ax7. You want to make a deal? Sure. First, you must leave Dave's for one week for erroneously claiming hagwon enrollment would increase/had increased following public school cuts. (It didn't. It declined.) Next, if you post of picture of a TOPIK level 3 test certificate (with The Urban Myth written on a piece of paper on it/next to it), I will be a man of my word. (You can even borrow one from a friend (if you have any friends that is).) I won't dispute the picture or claim photoshop. So, put up or shut up.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Gyeonggi province will cut half of the NETs next year Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
the total amount spent on private education has declined slightly.

Slightly? Try significantly.

http://res.heraldm.com/content/image/2013/02/06/20130206001283_0.jpg

ontheway wrote:
I can see no evidence of any decline.

The amount of private spending on education is on the decline. The amount of private spending on English education is on the decline. The amount of private spending on mathematics education is actually going up (and has been going up).

Here's the 2012 stats by subject breakdown/student participation rate%:

Mathematics: 47.8
English: 46.3
Artistic & physical skills, hobbies and culture: 30.9
Korean: 22.3
Social studies and science: 14.0
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
No sense? I saw what you wrote. So did others. And yes, you are similar to 12ax7. You want to make a deal? Sure. First, you must leave Dave's for one week for erroneously claiming hagwon enrollment would increase/had increased following public school cuts. .


Better check your facts again.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes 바이 바이
creeper1 wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Now, about that source I asked for above...?

If I find it will you kindly shut the hell up?

How's this for a deal: if I find it and pwn you, you must leave Dave's for one week. Deal?

Okay...but it must be an authoritative source (not some blog or something like that). I will accept a news article or a link to the MOE or something like that.

See you in a week.
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20121210000781


It's not often I like a post by World Traveler but I have to hand it to him.

The urban myth was totally owned with this. Laughing
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Rolling Eyes 바이 바이
creeper1 wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Now, about that source I asked for above...?

If I find it will you kindly shut the hell up?

How's this for a deal: if I find it and pwn you, you must leave Dave's for one week. Deal?

Okay...but it must be an authoritative source (not some blog or something like that). I will accept a news article or a link to the MOE or something like that.

See you in a week.
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20121210000781


It's not often I like a post by World Traveler but I have to hand it to him.

The urban myth was totally owned with this. Laughing




Quote:
Nice try but that's not what I asked for. See the quote above...that article says nothing about the decline in hakwon enrollment corresponding with native teacher jobs being cut. In fact it doesn't even mention native teacher jobs.



Furthermore you were talking about 2009...that article is from 2012
.

You made the claim above that is bolded. You have yet to provide proof of that.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you're just being ridiculous. This is what you were disputing, remember?

World Traveler wrote:
Popocatepetl wrote:
Oh well. More business for the hagwons I guess! Laughing

That is an assumption that very well may not turn out to be true. Last time there were public school cuts did hagwon enrollment go up? It definitely didn't. So why would it this time? English language hagwon enrollment has been on the decline since its peak in 2009. More affordable options to study in the Philippines these days I guess. These cuts mean LESS jobs for us NETs. It is a very bad thing.

The number of NETs hired to work at public schools has been on the decline for a few years now. That is common knowledge. (If you don't believe me on that for some reason, use Google to find out more.)
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drcrazy



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Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is KOREA!!!!! The vast majority of foreign language teachers in the USA are NOT native speakers. And I have had tons of pre-service and in service teachers from Elementary-High School over very many years, and they are all very well qualified, and far better than Elementary-High School foreign language teachers in the USA.
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