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World Cup 2014: U.S. in the "Group of Death''
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still, it's hard to see anyone other than Brazil, Germany or Spain for an outright winner.

I'm going with the Germans this year. 1990 is along time ago.


Remember that no European team has ever won it in South America/Mexico
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Still, it's hard to see anyone other than Brazil, Germany or Spain for an outright winner.

I'm going with the Germans this year. 1990 is along time ago.

Remember that no European team has ever won it in South America/Mexico

It's the weather I tell you. Europeans just can't handle the heat. South Africa was chilly and ideal for the Europeans.

Also, don't forget Argentina, they'd love to win on enemy territory.
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sanbondon



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weather's a factor plus the Brazilians playing on home turf gives them a great chance.

However I fancy this German team to deal with the conditions. They've got the best midfield going to the WC(gotze, muller, rues, ozil, draxler, schweinsteigger, khedira, gundogan, etc.) and won't be afraid of anyone.

I also think they'll play the fact that no European team has won in South America to their advantage when those games come in the later phases. I've already read people like Oliver Bierhoff playing down their chances based on the things mentioned above.

Last year's Champions League was also a good indicator of the powershift in European football from the south to the north. There's a tremendous confidence in German football right now so I expect them to go all the way.

Deutschland über alles
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sanbondon wrote:
The weather's a factor plus the Brazilians playing on home turf gives them a great chance.

However I fancy this German team to deal with the conditions. They've got the best midfield going to the WC(gotze, muller, rues, ozil, draxler, schweinsteigger, khedira, gundogan, etc.) and won't be afraid of anyone.

I also think they'll play the fact that no European team has won in South America to their advantage when those games come in the later phases. I've already read people like Oliver Bierhoff playing down their chances based on the things mentioned above.

Last year's Champions League was also a good indicator of the powershift in European football from the south to the north. There's a tremendous confidence in German football right now so I expect them to go all the way.

Deutschland über alles

This, and maybe the next WC will be their window of opportunity to win one. Most of the German players will be hitting their peak in these next few years.
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catman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a Euro team doesn't make it to the finals it will be the first time in decades that has happened.

Germany won't win it this time. They are waiting to win it on Russian soil in 2018.
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Otherside



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Still, it's hard to see anyone other than Brazil, Germany or Spain for an outright winner.

I'm going with the Germans this year. 1990 is along time ago.


Remember that no European team has ever won it in South America/Mexico


Until 2010, no European team had ever won outside of Europe, yet in 2010 it was an all European finals.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherside wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
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Still, it's hard to see anyone other than Brazil, Germany or Spain for an outright winner.

I'm going with the Germans this year. 1990 is along time ago.


Remember that no European team has ever won it in South America/Mexico

Until 2010, no European team had ever won outside of Europe, yet in 2010 it was an all European finals.

The weather was chilly. And also in their time-zone.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

England and the US have tough groups, but look at poor old Australia.
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sanbondon



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Americans and Aussies are very unlikely to progress from their respective groups.

The English, however, have a better that equal chance I think. They could also be going a little further given that their Group D will meet Group C in the round of 16.

Thereafter, it's a tie with the teams coming fromh Groups A and B (the Dutch, Spanish and Brazilians for example)in the quarters.

Getting into the last 8 would be a great WC for the English. Hopefully the Italians and Uruguayians will see to it that it never gets that far.
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catman



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

England will be playing for a scoreless draw against Italy.
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Gladiator



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:23 am    Post subject: WC Reply with quote

PEIGUY wrote:
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Algeria shouldn't be much do a match for them


What, like they weren't against the mighty West Germany and Jupp Derwall's comments in 1982?

"There's no such thing as an easy game in international football". Graham Taylor (1993)
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Gladiator



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:26 am    Post subject: WC Reply with quote

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England will be playing for a scoreless draw against Italy.


A scoreless draw AND a scoreless bore. It won't be a pretty sight.
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catman



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: WC Reply with quote

Gladiator wrote:
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England will be playing for a scoreless draw against Italy.


A scoreless draw AND a scoreless bore. It won't be a pretty sight.


Actually they might be playing for a scoreless draw against Uruguay as well. Then go for the kill against Costa Rica.......which will probably end in a scoreless draw.

Laughing
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: WC Reply with quote

catman wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
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England will be playing for a scoreless draw against Italy.


A scoreless draw AND a scoreless bore. It won't be a pretty sight.


Actually they might be playing for a scoreless draw against Uruguay as well. Then go for the kill against Costa Rica.......which will probably end in a scoreless draw.

Laughing


They don't make it easy to be an England fan.
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Gladiator



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:20 am    Post subject: WC Reply with quote

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England has finally been drawn into a tough group. No easy games


Yes, this will be a three match tournament for England. And it will continue to go downhill from there, although with England's current 'absolute nadar of talent in any position' squad it's hard to imagine how that will be possible.
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