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BA/BS not enough as of 2015 for E2s
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tophatcat



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:28 am    Post subject: BA/BS not enough as of 2015 for E2s Reply with quote

Should credentials be raised for E2 VISA Holders?

Examples:
Teacher Certification
100 Hour TESOL
Masters Degree

This only applies to E2s.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the relatively wide variety of jobs which fall under the purview of the E-2 visa, what would the government gain by enforcing a higher universal standard, rather than letting employers decide what criteria they felt was adequate? It would economically benefit highly qualified foreigners and foreigners on other visas (f-4/5/6) at the expense of Korean citizens, who would either be cut off from a service they demanded or forced to pay more for it.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad idea unless they improve conditions for the visa holders.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: BA/BS not enough as of 2015 for E2s Reply with quote

tophatcat wrote:
Should credentials be raised for E2 VISA Holders?
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No. What makes a teacher great is experience not how many qualifications they tack on behind their name.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For teaching children,yes. I think the requirements will go up. There has been a long trend for the last few years of employers requiring masters and TESOL certificates.

For teaching at universities, masters and doctorates.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Bad idea unless they improve conditions for the visa holders.


This.

Would also probably cause a ton of Hagwons to close. The market would shift back to an employee's market and I dont think that many Hagwons would be able to pay for the increased wages.
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greene



Joined: 11 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh god i'm so afraid to see the pro-masters replies in this thread

100 hours of anger management should be required to register for an account at daves
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420bro



Joined: 15 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not sure it will happen at the immigration level but it has already happened at the university level. As of the past year or so it has become almost impossible to get a uni gig without a MA and at least two years experience.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: The joy's in the ride.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They won't raise the requirements because they want cheap teachers.
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candy bar



Joined: 03 Dec 2012

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the hakwons that employee foreign teachers can afford to increase pay 400.000 won each month. This would attract teachers with better qualifications to teach. I believe it is time for Korea to step up its game. It is already doing it at the university level. In the overall scheme of things better qualified teachers will help bring about better results.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

candybar wrote:
I believe it is time for Korea to step up its game


They should increase the requirements to include a TEFL cert, but they're not interested in qualifications or experience.

All they care about is getting young blonde American females.
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candy bar



Joined: 03 Dec 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
candybar wrote:
I believe it is time for Korea to step up its game


They should increase the requirements to include a TEFL cert, but they're not interested in qualifications or experience.

All they care about is getting young blonde American females.


They should at least require a TEFL certification.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candy bar wrote:
Chaparrastique wrote:
candybar wrote:
I believe it is time for Korea to step up its game


They should increase the requirements to include a TEFL cert, but they're not interested in qualifications or experience.

All they care about is getting young blonde American females.


They should at least require a TEFL certification.


They already do. Some more than others. Busan requires 60 hours of it to be in class.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
For teaching children,yes. I think the requirements will go up. There has been a long trend for the last few years of employers requiring masters and TESOL certificates.

For teaching at universities, masters and doctorates.


I hate it when people say things like this because they give the impression that more credentials is a magic wand which wipes away bad character traits.
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candy bar



Joined: 03 Dec 2012

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

archaeologist5 wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:
For teaching children,yes. I think the requirements will go up. There has been a long trend for the last few years of employers requiring masters and TESOL certificates.

For teaching at universities, masters and doctorates.


I hate it when people say things like this because they give the impression that more credentials is a magic wand which wipes away bad character traits.


I don't see where this is directed at bad character traits. It looks as though it has more to do with getting people who are better qualified.

You trying to spin this off topic?
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