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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Obama speaks out on marijuana Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
Hyeon In wrote:
Chaparrastique wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
I smoked pot as a kid


..so the president of the USA would not be good enough to qualify for an E2.


He could get an E1 and teach constitutional law or something though? If he's ever desperate.


If he doesn't have an arrest record, than he would get in fine. Plus, being a Harvard grad and ex-president he could have his pick of uni positions.


Ex-Presidents make their money in speaking fees.

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In 11 years as a private citizen, Clinton has delivered 471 paid speeches and earned an average of $189,000 per event.


Obama is not as good a President. He is a two-term President, so he could safely clear around $100,000 per event.
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Leon



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, also don't forget the millions he has already made off of his books, although both Clinton's have done well there as well.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
Well, also don't forget the millions he has already made off of his books, although both Clinton's have done well there as well.


I had forgotten about Obama's books. Yes, he can write fairly well. He will probably make substantially more from his memoirs than Clinton ever did.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italy’s constitutional court has overturned a controversial law equating cannabis with cocaine and heroin. The decision could see around 10,000 people released from the country’s overburdened jails.

http://rt.com/news/italy-marijuana-law-overturned-061/

Do you think that could be related to this?

the official U.S. position has changed in recent years. In 2009, the U.S. Department of Justice announced it wouldn't target medical marijuana patients. In August, the agency said it wouldn't interfere with the laws in Colorado and Washington, which regulate the growth and sale of taxed pot for recreational use.

Government officials and activists worldwide have taken note of the more open stance. Also not lost on them was the Obama administration's public silence before votes in both states and in Uruguay.


I wonder if there is a connection (between the actions of the United States and other countries). There very well could be.

MEXICO CITY – Lawmakers in Mexico introduced bills Thursday that would create marijuana dispensaries in the capital and increase the amount of the drug people across the country could carry for “personal use.”

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-mexico-city-marijuana-laws-20140213,0,6759413.story#axzz2tR4jS0Iy

It would also direct the government to designate spaces in the city where marijuana could be sold without fear of prosecution under certain criteria, including offering consumers warnings about potential health risks.

The federal bill would allow for the use of medical marijuana, give states and the Mexico City government more say in setting drug policy, and increase the amount of marijuana allowed for personal use from 5 grams to 30. The bill would also raise personal limits for LSD, methamphetamine and cocaine.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alaska is next.

Passage of the marijuana initiative would permit adults 21 and older to possess up to one ounce (28 grams) of marijuana for private personal use and to grow as many as six cannabis plants for their own consumption.

http://news.yahoo.com/recreational-marijuana-proposal-certified-alaska-ballot-062559758--sector.html

The push to legalize recreational pot use in Alaska, which is among 20 states that already allow medical marijuana, is part of a broader state-by-state effort to end prohibition of the drug, which remains classified as an illegal narcotic under federal law.

Activists in Oregon also are gathering signatures to put a legalization measure on the 2014 ballot in that state.
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Ginormousaurus



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Alaska is next.

Passage of the marijuana initiative would permit adults 21 and older to possess up to one ounce (28 grams) of marijuana for private personal use and to grow as many as six cannabis plants for their own consumption.


Does this mean you can carry outside of your home 1 ounce, but are allowed more as long as it's kept at home? Six plants will yield much more than one ounce.
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Numpty



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was Obama speaking out about? And why was he on drugs at the time?
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legalizing medical marijuana did not cause an increase in any category of crime in states that have done so, according to a new study. In fact, medical marijuana laws have been associated with decreases in some violent crime, particularly homicides and assaults.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/03/27/3419954/study-medical-marijuana-laws-associated-with-minor-reductions-in-assaults-homicides/

this is one of several studies to find that medical marijuana laws yield no increases in crime. A 2012 study found that medical marijuana dispensaries don’t lead to increases in crime in the neighborhoods where they are located. And a 2013 University of Chicago study found that medical marijuana laws were associated with a decrease in fatalities, contrary to the concerns of some about driving under the influence.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.wnct.com/story/25159690/majority-of-doctors-support-legalizing-medical-marijuana
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guavashake



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
http://www.wnct.com/story/25159690/majority-of-doctors-support-legalizing-medical-marijuana


No shit, they want to write prescriptions.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case (if there really was a secret conspiracy by the "elites"), they'd be against marijuana. It can't be easily patented like pills, and is therefore probably less profitable. Did it ever occur to you doctors want to help people? (Also, they are more educated and more knowledgable than the general public.)
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guavashake



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are funny. God bless you for making me laugh at the end of a long day.
Have you heard of tobacco?

mj will be a bigger bonanza, they will hit the jackpot.
More costly than tobacco, plus you need a prescription.
There's already consulting companies working on plans for this scenario.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guavashake wrote:
You are funny. God bless you for making me laugh at the end of a long day.
Have you heard of tobacco?

Doctors advise against smoking. So does the U.S. government. Consequently, the rate has been falling for a while now. (Doctors and the government are not in bed with the tobacco industry. They are not bought off and paid by them.)
http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/tobacco-companies-were-terrified-1964-surgeon-general-report-will-obama-finally-realize-their-fears
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guavashake



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
guavashake wrote:
You are funny. God bless you for making me laugh at the end of a long day.
Have you heard of tobacco?

Doctors advise against smoking. So does the U.S. government. Consequently, the rate has been falling for a while now. (Doctors and the government are not in bed with the tobacco industry. They are not bought off and paid by them.)
http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/tobacco-companies-were-terrified-1964-surgeon-general-report-will-obama-finally-realize-their-fears


There you go again, making me laugh...

The Clintons engineered a plan to enrich themselves by billions of dollars extracted from the tobacco industry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/08/us/rodham-and-group-seeking-legal-fees-uses-clinton-testimonial.html

This one example of many.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a better example then radcon because that link is about a brother in law of Bill Clinton suing the tobacco industry. (He was not defending them; in fact, the opposite.)
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