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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Diversity is our strength! Reply with quote

This thread is dedicated to all the myriad ways that cultural diversity has brightened up our once monotone Western nations.

In the UK, few would argue that immigration from Indian subcontinent has changed Britain's national cuisine for the better. On the other hand, we seems to be witnessing an increase in vote fraud and electoral 'irregularities.' All part of our new multicultural tapestry!

'Threats and Chaos' At Tower Hamlets Vote Count, Reports Witness

A senior Conservative has claimed that the election count in Tower Hamlets was an “omnishambles” mired in “arguments, threats and chaos”. According to the Evening Standard Cllr Peter Golds said that in one ward there had been a 21 per cent discrepancy between the results in the first and second count.

The allegations came after widespread concerns were expressed about the conduct of the election in East London. City Hall insiders have told Breitbart London that every other London borough had completed their European count by 10pm on Sunday night, but they all had to wait for Tower Hamlets, The borough ended up declaring in the early hours of Monday morning.

Tower Hamlets also suspended the local election count and six wards are still yet to declare. The borough, run by an independent Mayor Lutfur Rahman, had promised to get its act together after a series of allegations of electoral fraud. But, as reported on Breitbart London, there was little evidence that the process had been significantly improved.

The Mayor of Tower Hamlets is no stranger to controversy. He is accused of using taxpayers’ money to support Islamist groups and his supporters have been accused of imitating voters on a number of occasions.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/27/Tower-Hamlets-Count-An-Ominshambles-According-To-Cllr


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Leon



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the egalitarianism thread not enough? Maybe I'm missing the distinction, but why not just keep this stuff there?
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is more specifically related to the fruits of mass immigration, multiculturalism, and diversity.
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Titus



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An outcome of diversity is that the National Front pulled 25% of the vote in France. Plus UKIP, Dane People Party, Golden Dawn, Jobbik, etc. Had the EU simply desired to enslave the people to bankers it would have lasted for centuries. Instead they vindictively flooded the land with aliens and the whole project is at risk.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Had the EU simply desired to enslave the people to bankers it would have lasted for centuries. Instead they vindictively flooded the land with aliens and the whole project is at risk.


The historical nations of Europe stand in the way of the European dream. Therefore, they must be undermined through mass third world immigration. One of the pioneers of EU integration, a man named Richard Nikolaus Eijiro von Coudenhove-Kalergi, had this to say about the future of Europe:

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nikolaus_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi#Pan-European_political_activist

This has been the plan from the beginning, though rarely spoken of. Sometimes, however, our elites' hubris gets the better of them, and they reveal to us their true colours:

EU should 'undermine national homogeneity' says UN migration chief

The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said

Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural.

He told the House of Lords committee migration was a "crucial dynamic for economic growth" in some EU nations "however difficult it may be to explain this to the citizens of those states".

Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development....

"The United States, or Australia and New Zealand, are migrant societies and therefore they accommodate more readily those from other backgrounds than we do ourselves, who still nurse a sense of our homogeneity and difference from others.

"And that's precisely what the European Union, in my view, should be doing its best to undermine."

Mr Sutherland, who has attended meetings of The Bilderberg Group, a top level international networking organisation often criticised for its alleged secrecy, called on EU states to stop targeting "highly skilled" migrants...


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One would have to ask could America, England and France have gotten to where they were without the many different peoples it enslaved and/or used as cheap labor?
There is one consistency with any nation that ruled its era or were the top nation of its day going back to the Persians, Romans, etc. and that is they built their empires/nations on slave and/or cheap labor.
This labor were different people nationalistically and/or ethnically/racially.
Certainly it was the case in America. The original WASPs could not have built America to its present state on its own.
All the G8 nations have had to diversify their countries to maintain growth and properity. With it comes cross cultural problems. Its the price one pays for prosperity.
Korea will learn that as well if it wants to be a true global power economically. Very difficult to do so without diversifying to some extent. Japan has kept itself fairly homogenous as it stayed the 2nd largest economy until recently but their larger cities, especially Tokyo has a fair number of foreigners that would not have been there had they not grown economically.
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EastisEast



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, but that is a Western phenomenon...the enslaving entire peoples and exterminating them over centuries (Arawak, Carib, Toltec, Mexica, etc)

The Ottomans were very much into accepting other cultures in the middle ages and prospered greatly, without wholesale slavery as in the West.

I'd say the world is geared towards peoples and cultures uniting and those that can do that prosper better while homogenous ones struggle and war.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
One would have to ask could America, England and France have gotten to where they were without the many different peoples it enslaved and/or used as cheap labor?
There is one consistency with any nation that ruled its era or were the top nation of its day going back to the Persians, Romans, etc. and that is they built their empires/nations on slave and/or cheap labor.
This labor were different people nationalistically and/or ethnically/racially.
Certainly it was the case in America. The original WASPs could not have built America to its present state on its own.
All the G8 nations have had to diversify their countries to maintain growth and properity. With it comes cross cultural problems. Its the price one pays for prosperity.
Korea will learn that as well if it wants to be a true global power economically. Very difficult to do so without diversifying to some extent. Japan has kept itself fairly homogenous as it stayed the 2nd largest economy until recently but their larger cities, especially Tokyo has a fair number of foreigners that would not have been there had they not grown economically.


Europe did not become wealthy because of empire, the industrial revolution and the subsequent economic innovations led to European success.

In fact the vast majority of the great European empires only reached their zenith many decades after industrialising. Before that they were successful against native tribesmen in the New World, but enjoyed little success elsewhere.

It was the various innovations that comprised the Industrial Revolution that laid the foundations for European wealth and dominance. For the first time in history a country and it's economy could grow beyond how much territory and resources it possessed. Small Europeans countries that had traditionally been limited by their small size could now grow many times bigger than huge asiatic behemoths such as China and India.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EastisEast wrote:
Interesting, but that is a Western phenomenon...the enslaving entire peoples and exterminating them over centuries (Arawak, Carib, Toltec, Mexica, etc)

The Ottomans were very much into accepting other cultures in the middle ages and prospered greatly, without wholesale slavery as in the West.

I'd say the world is geared towards peoples and cultures uniting and those that can do that prosper better while homogenous ones struggle and war.


Apologies if you were being sarcastic, but the eastern world was every bit as oppressive and barbaric as the west.

The Ottomans presided over a huge slave network for centuries and ravaged the European continent hunting for slaves to fuel their empire.

Plus the Chinese were/are pretty adept at oppressing and then exterminating a people over long periods of time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
This thread is more specifically related to the fruits of mass immigration, multiculturalism, and diversity.


Thanks to an ever expanding diverse population Britian is set to overtake her European rivals economically.

The big problem with the UK is that London concentrates too much of the nations's wealth and immigrant population in one place. If we could try and redistribute that wealth towards the the Midlands and the North then the racial and social inequalities would subside.

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The historical nations of Europe stand in the way of the European dream. Therefore, they must be undermined through mass third world immigration.


A very, very large percentage of immigration to the UK comes from fellow European states.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Ottomans were very much into accepting other cultures in the middle ages and prospered greatly, without wholesale slavery as in the West.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire


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bigverne



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks to an ever expanding diverse population Britian is set to overtake her European rivals economically.


Obviously if your population grows, your GDP will generally rise. However, its impact on GDP per capita is more questionable. Its alleged benefits to the native population, aside from more diverse dining options, is even more dubious.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
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Thanks to an ever expanding diverse population Britian is set to overtake her European rivals economically.


Obviously if your population grows, your GDP will generally rise. However, its impact on GDP per capita is more questionable. Its alleged benefits to the native population, aside from more diverse dining options, is even more dubious.


The vast majority of immigrants in Britian come from India, China, Poland, Germany, Pakistan, Ireland, USA, Australia and Nigeria.

Is there really a worry that people from these countries would be a drain on the UK?

The white British population is ageing and emigrating in large numbers, immigration is vital in preventing the sort of challenges that countries like Korea are going to have to face.

The dire state of the economy outside of the South East is fundamentally responsible for the fracturing of communities. If only a fraction of London's wealth was transferred to the West Midlands and the North East, neglected communities could start to solve longstanding inequalities.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aq8knyus wrote:

Is there really a worry that people from these countries would be a drain on the UK?

The white British population is ageing and emigrating in large numbers, immigration is vital in preventing the sort of challenges that countries like Korea are going to have to face.


Agreed but please keep the mzlms out. Everyone else is welcome.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
aq8knyus wrote:

Is there really a worry that people from these countries would be a drain on the UK?

The white British population is ageing and emigrating in large numbers, immigration is vital in preventing the sort of challenges that countries like Korea are going to have to face.


Agreed but please keep the mzlms out. Everyone else is welcome.


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